[Mk2] [NA] 1992 Mk2 N/a birthday present but need advice

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Lucifer
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[Mk2] [NA] 1992 Mk2 N/a birthday present but need advice

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Just been given a great Birthday present a beautiful 1992 N/A t-bar as a spares but after having a look over it she seems to good to break :-(

Tried starting her and rev'd to 3k for ten seconds then died

I know its missing a cover that I will need but anyone any clues on where to start as it looks like someone loved her once

Thanks in advance

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Re: [Mk2] [NA] 1992 Mk2 N/a birthday present but need advice

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That looks to me to be a rev3 engine. The front wings/toblerone delete are also rev3+
Check you chassis number against a known list of revs. (just had a quick look but couldn't find the one i have seen, it may have been on mr2oc)

That missing cover will prevent the engine running as it is letting loads of unmetered air into the combustion process. If after sourcing one and fitting it and making sure all the earth points are affixed it still won't run then i would suspect conversion problems (harness or ecu based)

Otherwise it does look in great condition :thumleft:
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Re: [Mk2] [NA] 1992 Mk2 N/a birthday present but need advice

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Thanks
Chassis number says its a Rev-2 but got Rev-3 rear lights

cant find any engine numbers as someone has had it out and looks like its been painted and polly engine mounts and a lovely stainless exhaust so someone spent some money on her in the past

Posted an ad on the wanted section to see if I can get a inlet manifold cover then give her a full check
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Re: [Mk2] [NA] 1992 Mk2 N/a birthday present but need advice

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I might have one I'll check the workshop in the morning
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Thanks got a whole inlet assembly on the way now so finger crossed that will let me know whats wrong
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Re: [Mk2] [NA] 1992 Mk2 N/a birthday present but need advice

Post by asdrewq »

Rev1-2 spoiler. I highly doubt the previous owner went to the trouble of retrofitting that to a rev3.

Does look nice. Someone has clearly lavaihed some time over that engine in the past - looks exceptionally clean. Hope you get it sorted. My bet is it will fire right up after you replace that manifold cover.
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Re: [Mk2] [NA] 1992 Mk2 N/a birthday present but need advice

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abovetherim wrote:The front wings/toblerone delete are also rev3+


Or just a UK car :wink:
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abovetherim wrote:That looks to me to be a rev3 engine. The front wings/toblerone delete are also rev3+


I think you meant Rev4+. :wink:
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Post by Driftlimits Performance »

your missing the bolts holding the 2 parts of the fannimold together too.

If it's been sat for a while for the love of god please don't just try to start it.

Remove the plugs, and efi fuse, prime the oil first. After changing it. Of course.

And yes, hi idle and died because of savage air leaks. Make sure everything seviceable is in good working order.
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New manifold arrived today but won't get a chance to fit it till the weekend, Oil and fluids all fine someone had been working on it a few weeks back hence the missing cover.

The engine has had money spent on it in the past but its changed hands a few times since then and not sure whats wrong yet.... Roll on the weekend :-) lol
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1st attempt to work on the car today :-)

all missing bits replaced
Fresh oil all turning over nicely.
Flushed cooling system to and fresh coolant
Plugs all sparking nicely

turned the key and fired up ran at 500rpm for a few seconds then died

put 5l of fuel in the tank just to be sure it wasn't lacking fuel but wont fire up now

To cold to do anymore today

any suggestions on what to check

I have found the car has changed hands a few times and was in the local auctions in June this year so I'm suspicious if the engine has been changed or botched lol
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Re: [Mk2] [NA] 1992 Mk2 N/a birthday present but need advice

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Have you checked the distributor?
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Checked distributor today and looks like new inside, gives a good spark

ECU I believe is REV3

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I had a check to see if this car had a factory immobilizer and looking at the ignition barrel there doesn't appear to be any form of transponder receiver ring.

When I bridge the the terminals for the fuel pump I could clearly hear it so think thats good

I did spot an extra wire in the engine bay fuse box that looks like someone has sliced in at some point but left lose.

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I think I might write the previous registered owner a letter and see if they can advise of some history as I feel the car is to good to break but might be a little beyond my skill set lol
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Take plugs out. Clean with blow torch or gass cooker flame.

Bridge fuel pump terminals in diagnostic port.

Try starting with fully charged battery.
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Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:Take plugs out. Clean with blow torch or gass cooker flame.

Bridge fuel pump terminals in diagnostic port.

Try starting with fully charged battery.


Just tried that :-( no luck she is keen to turn over and you here her try and catch from time to time but still dead :-(
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Re: [Mk2] [NA] 1992 Mk2 N/a birthday present but need advice

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Are you definately getting fuel at the injectors??
Peter is saying bridge the fuel pump at the diagnostics port as this will definately mean it is running when you try to start her.

As there is an aftermarket alarm there it may be immobilising the pump on start up!

You could also pop off the exit line for the fuel filter to check the out flow with the pump running.

My concern tho is the wiring, as you pointed out. With it being rev3 ecu and engine and possibly rev2 loom. I'm not savvy enough on this to be able to tell you what might need swapping around if that is the case. However it might be a case of the igf wire needing to move one pin over.
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Re: [Mk2] [NA] 1992 Mk2 N/a birthday present but need advice

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abovetherim wrote:Are you definately getting fuel at the injectors??
Peter is saying bridge the fuel pump at the diagnostics port as this will definately mean it is running when you try to start her.

As there is an aftermarket alarm there it may be immobilising the pump on start up!

You could also pop off the exit line for the fuel filter to check the out flow with the pump running.

My concern tho is the wiring, as you pointed out. With it being rev3 ecu and engine and possibly rev2 loom. I'm not savvy enough on this to be able to tell you what might need swapping around if that is the case. However it might be a case of the igf wire needing to move one pin over.


to dark to mess about much on it as just home from work but opened the ECU and the IGF def has a red/white wire attached to it

will try re-checking the fuel when I get some daylight at the weekend :-)
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Re: [Mk2] [NA] 1992 Mk2 N/a birthday present but need advice

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despite the cold got a few checks done,

Fuel passing through new filter with no issues, and fuel getting to the fuel rail

turned the key and she caught and stumbled around at about 500rpm for 15 seconds then dies off again and despite priming the fuel system she wont catch again.

frustrating as she gives a little hope then packs in lol
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