uprated clutch which 1?

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uprated clutch which 1?

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been looking at uprated clutches on ebay. but not sure which 1 to go for.no point replacing it with a standard one might as well get a uprated clucth.can anyone reccomend a good uprated clutch which isnt gonna cost a bomb? dont really fancy a paddle clutch. thanks
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can anyone reccomend a good clutch? which isnt gonna break the bank. for a rev 3 gonna be boosting no more then 18/19psi.for daily use thanks
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18/19 psi on what? A stock CT26? Hybrid? GT3076R, GT35R, GT42R?

All the above turbos will give you very different power levels for your stated boost level. This in itself will dicatate the need for a different clutch depending on this piece of information.

You're better of stating what power you're running rather than what boost level as it doesn't really mean anything when an important piece of info is missing.

Anyway, Exedy always seem to come up as an alternative to stock on midly tuned cars.
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sorry should of mentioned the mods. basically standard rev3 with exhaust decat hoping to run it to 17/18 psi been looking on ebay but the clutches vary in price.so if anyone could reccomend me one.
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Helix 6 Paddle clutch !! :thumleft:

I know you've mentioned no paddles, but in my eyes, a clutch is like a set of pads, always go for the very best if you want reliability and durability.

The helix clutches aren't affected with heat like other cheaper plates. The cover is the same or you can get an uprated one, but with the friction plate being ceremetallic, the bit is excellent.

It is everyday drivable :thumleft:
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JJ wrote:Helix 6 Paddle clutch !! :thumleft:

I know you've mentioned no paddles, but in my eyes, a clutch is like a set of pads, always go for the very best if you want reliability and durability.

The helix clutches aren't affected with heat like other cheaper plates. The cover is the same or you can get an uprated one, but with the friction plate being ceremetallic, the bit is excellent.

It is everyday drivable :thumleft:


I don't understand this with clutches - when yous ay the cover is the same?

Does that mean you'd keep your existing cover? Does that not wear out?
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thanks for reply's could u point me in the right direction for any good dealers for these clutches? cheapest possible :mrgreen:
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prob not the cheapest place???http://www.fensport.co.uk/Parts/Model_27/Category_3/ but would it be worthwhile get a uprated clutch cover? or keep the standard one?
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bluesmoke wrote:
JJ wrote:Helix 6 Paddle clutch !! :thumleft:

I know you've mentioned no paddles, but in my eyes, a clutch is like a set of pads, always go for the very best if you want reliability and durability.

The helix clutches aren't affected with heat like other cheaper plates. The cover is the same or you can get an uprated one, but with the friction plate being ceremetallic, the bit is excellent.

It is everyday drivable :thumleft:


I don't understand this with clutches - when yous ay the cover is the same?

Does that mean you'd keep your existing cover? Does that not wear out?


The way I see it, the clutch cover is basically the same as the flywheel in that its the opposite side of the clamp that is placed on the clutch plates. The clutch plates are designed to be the parts that wear and need replacing.
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So pretty much standard then. Personally i'd go a standard Toyota clutch. I bought and uprated one made by SPEC, feel apart after a few months. SPEC didn't want to know. I should point out i was running standard boost so the clutch should have lasted an age.
Toyota one will be made to a higher standard IMO. They come with a 12month warranty (compare that to an aftermarket one) so it stands to reason that Toyota don't want them to fail as they'll have to replace them so they make sure they're well made. Plus it'll be a lot more drivable than than an uprated aftermarket one.
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You can't tar all aftermarket clutches with the SPEC brush. SPEC are reknowned for failing very quickly, but on the flip side there are people who have run SPEC clutches with no problems at all. I'm sure its not unheard of for any manufacturer to fall foul of a "bad batch".
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Technically, the clutch kit is part Toyota ( cover and thrust bearing ) or other manufacturer with their stamp on it, with a decent friction plate... !!

With the Helix range, if the plate has prematurely worn ( clutch rider ! ), you can just replace the friction plate :thumleft:

There are companies like RPS which provide uprated covers, all need to be advise though, uprated covers are great for clamping, but place more stress / laterial force on the thrust bearing on the engine itself.. which is often overlooked. When you push the clutch down, to release the cover pressure from the friction place, you're pushing against the flywheel which is strapped to the crank.

If you're pushing the clutch down, you're placing laterial force against the thurst bearing on the crank... the tougher the cover, the increased likelihood of engine failure through thrust bearing failure.

I've seen 4 Supra engines gone down this route, though I havent seen an MR2 / Celica done this... seems the clamping force it far too strong on the RPS clutches.... Not knocking the outright stock, just the variant for the Supra tends to attract serious mechanical failures.

So in summary, cover as stock as possible and a killer friction plate ! :thumleft:

Those pushing in excess 400+ bhp... ideally a twin plate, similar clamping force distributed over 4 faces / two plates.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-STAGE ... ccessories


been looking at this clutch kit. for the price it sounds a good clutch. has anyone used these clutches?+ get a lightened flywheel
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