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Paul in the Port

Raybrig Headlights

Post by Paul in the Port »

Aft'noon all.

In preparation for the winter and due to the poor performance of the standard sealed beam units on my car, i just called Toyota Celica Breakers to order a set of the Raybrig headlights. They no longer do these now so is there another supplier of these units for our RHD cars, or failing that whats the best alternative to these??

Any proper HID kits available (not just HID bulbs to fit a standard housing that dont work properly)?? How about the crystal units on Ebay for about £40 each with some quality bulbs??

Cheers
Paul
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I'm not aware of anywhere still selling Raybrigs in the UK, only option now is to get them in from Japan yourself I think.
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First try getting some super bright bulbs. I went to Halfords and got the brightest ones you can legally drive on the road with (+60 or + 80%) which were one step down from the illegal rally light bulbs. It made a massive difference over the standard.

Keep this thread updated if you find any though as I could be tempted :)
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Crystal headlights are now fitted and I can actually see where I'm going !! These are a brillant buy along with blue tip bulbs :thumleft:
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Thanks guys. Decissions decissions........... i can get a pair direct from Japan for £100 delivered... but am i likely to get stung with shipping / handling fees and then VAT on top???

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Paul
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Bit the bullet and just ordered after reviewing lots of feedback for the Japanese supplier and not seen anyone mention any duties that surprised them. Pennies under £100 delivered and Japanese Domestic Market spec so for RHD as confirmed by the seller within an hour.

Lets see how fast shipping is from Japan then.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 567wt_1165

I even got a message a few minutes after purchasing offering the choice of clear white or purple blue tinted lenses!!
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I have a set of philips blue vision sitting in my glove box, but I haven't yet fitted them because I read they need to be properly aligned in order to meet MOT standards

for me, and the OP here with his choice... is that right or will fitting them into the position of the existing units mean they will be properly aligned?
Unless I'm very much mistaken...
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Swapping bulbs shouldnt make any difference to alignment so why not fit them? Its the lamp unit itself that sets the alignment and there's usually a couple of adjustment screws on the front somewhere. Mine will be getting squirted with penetrating fluid tomorrow to hopefully free them up a bit. Once i swap to the new Raybrig's, i'll pop the car to a mate's garage to have them set up on the alignment kit.
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Paul, You don't need to touch the alignment screws to swap out the headlight units there's a much simpler way to do it:

1) Pop up the lights into the "up but off" position.
2) Unplug the headlight motor relay (Far right hand corner of the frunk as looking from the front of the car) to ensure that there is zero possibility of the lights coming down whilst you're working on them.
3) Remove the black plastic surround from the headlights
4) Remove the top 2 screws from the chrome headlight surround (these will most likely be rusted to hell and will probably get sacrificed during removal)
4a) If needs be remove the body coloured headlight cover to give better access should you need to cut off the screws in '4)' above (shouldn't be necessary but it sometimes is if you can't get purchase on the screws any other way - best avoiding if you can as realigning the covers afterwards is fiddly)
5) Once you've got the screws out you can pull the top of the chrome surround forwards enough to pull the headlight out and unplug it.
6) Fit the new light (remembering to plug it in first!). Take care not the scratch the plastic lense on a Raybrig against the surround as you put it in.
7) Put it all back together using new screws on the chrome surround

Once you've got decent screws in the top of the chrome surround you can use the same method to replace the bulbs at any time as well without having to muck around adjusting anything.
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Post by Paul in the Port »

Thanks for the info. Handy for the nearside but unfortunately i need to replace the offside unit completely as its been slightly damaged by the old accident damage that has seen me already replace the radiator and slam panel as well as the rusty bumper bar etc. I picked up a complete unit including motor off ebay for £6 +p&p so not bad at all. The cover will get a respray while its off this weekend. I'm vaguely hoping the Raybrig lights may get here at then end of the week as they were sent out yesterday - we'll see.
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I got MR2 headlight reflectors, clear lenses manufactured by FITT I think, they were from ebay and were only £40 from a UK company, they looked just like the raybrig and with a 90% halfords bulb were awesome.
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my mx5 i just got have got the raybring headlamps.. and they really are superb :thumleft:
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Well you wont believe this gents (and ladies) but my Raybrig's have just arrived!! Ordered them around 7pm Monday evening (3am Tuesday Japan time) and the courier dropped them off at 9:30am today - so thats 62.5hrs from order to delivery from Japan!!!

I wouldnt mind betting that TCB would have struggled to beat that delivery time and price (sub £100) if they still stocked the Raybrig's!!! Cant wait to fit them now but i only ordered some Philips X-treme power bulbs last night so hopefully tomorrow!!
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those Raybrig ones from Japan look like a decent option, do they really offer £60 worth of additional performance over the FITT lenses though? theyre not e-marked, this isnt required for an MOT but it is required by law. youd be unlucky to get caught out, and would probably just have to swap the lights for legitimate ones.

do the Raybrigs even have an e-marking though? i doubt it since they arent European product. also, on that auction it doesnt specify right hand drive, but it does specify "legal in 50 states". so that would imply to me that they are LHD versions, the beam is going to point in the wrong direction unless they have both types and are sending the appropriate ones to the different regions.
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I checked the lenses and they arent e-marked as i expected but then again i'm not too worried seeing as they are concealed from view when retracted. I did ask about whether they were for RHD or LHD and it was confirmed they were for the Jap Domestic Market and so RHD (and the beam pattern indicated on the box suggests so too). I believe he can supply either if needed from the messages i had and he also sells to the US.

Are they worth an extra £60?? Well to me they are a safety improvement over the useless original sealed beams so worth every penny of the £100 delivered (plus the £16 for the bulbs).
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Post by viperrr »

I managed to get hold of my Raybrig's from TCB just before they stopped supplying them, I think they cost me about £100 delivered... but took longer than 62 hours!

Set up with some Philip's Bluevision bulbs, they're such an improvement over standard. :thumleft:
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Paul in the Port wrote:I checked the lenses and they arent e-marked as i expected but then again i'm not too worried seeing as they are concealed from view when retracted. I did ask about whether they were for RHD or LHD and it was confirmed they were for the Jap Domestic Market and so RHD (and the beam pattern indicated on the box suggests so too). I believe he can supply either if needed from the messages i had and he also sells to the US.

Are they worth an extra £60?? Well to me they are a safety improvement over the useless original sealed beams so worth every penny of the £100 delivered (plus the £16 for the bulbs).


ok cool, they are RHD at least so thats a bonus. im not convinced they will be better than the £40 ones off ebay though, and if they arent e-marked then thats pretty much got me sold on the ebay versions. the stock lights are indeed very poor and any improvement is worthwhile, and Raybrig have an excellent reputation. but at the same time $89 is £55, the rest is on shipping from Japan. so it makes me wonder how much better the quality will be anyway. but il bet even the £40 ones dont arrive as quickly lol
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The 'E' marking will be checked by your MOT tester when he tries to get a decent beam pattern out of them and can't...

There's a guy I work with (Danthrax on here) who has FITT lenses on his MK1 and I can't see the difference between them and my Raybrigs.
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toxo wrote:The 'E' marking will be checked by your MOT tester when he tries to get a decent beam pattern out of them and can't...

There's a guy I work with (Danthrax on here) who has FITT lenses on his MK1 and I can't see the difference between them and my Raybrigs.


they can look for it all they like, its not a failure. an incorrect beam pattern is though. as long as the beam is correct and all the other headlight inspection points the lack of an e-marking in itself has no bearing on the MOT test. i would think the only time youd get taken up on it is by the police or VOSA. and i reckon youd be pretty unlucky at that!
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The FITT ones passed an MOT before I sold the car. I would have them again but am thinking about some projector type lenses that I saw on a red Mk2 in MR2 only magazine. American car I think.
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