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Re: Warm MR2 turbo - effortlessly fast but ......boring?

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matt_mr2t wrote:I've been saying for aaaages that Lauren has double standards, she'll quite happily sensor a post if you say you were doing 100mph but it's perfectly ok to talk about taking bends well in excess of speeds, as long as you dont say the speed. Or doing heel and toe driving, getting the back out etc etc etc. All of which, IMO, are not safe for doing on a public road.



The difference between speeding and having a bit of 'movement' on a roundabout is that speeding is clearly breaking the law. But you'd have to actually witness what i'm doing around a roundabout to be able to say whether it's dangerous drivng or illegal not. If we did not have rules about illegal activities then I woulndn't give a toss about people saying they speed on the road, I couldn't care less in all honesty. I've had 25 points for speeding but have never once been done for driving without due care and attention.

I'd be the first to admit that I drive like a complete c*** on the road, but it's not necessarily illegal and therein lies the point.


youre so full of xxxx sometimes its beyond belief, in a way its pointless discussing the 'ins and outs' as nothing anyone else says makes blind bit of difference, in your eyes you are ALWAYS right to which there is no movement to learn or accept, even though deep down you know you are wrong
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matt_mr2t wrote:Geoff. I get what you mean, but when you say you never spun, I'm assuming you were never using 300bhp while in the twists. That's what I'm getting at. I doubt any car without a seriously advanced traction control system could have that kind of power and take bends at full throttle. And the seriously advanced traction control is only going to take away that power anyway....


Is that necessary or even desirable though? Haven't had the car for 3 years now so can't recall my driving style exactly - but I know I used a pretty good % of the power, quite a lot of the time. You certainly had to hold back a bit more in the wet but that doesn't mean going slow, just exercising a bit of throttle control :thumleft: I honestly don't think I've owned a car I drove quicker than that in the wet.

What I will say is that when I bought the car, the camber angles and toe adjustment were way out and it had tired Yokohamas on it. THAT was a truly scary experience - even on stock power. Once I had all that sorted out, it was a lot more enjoyable, easier to drive and safer with 300bhp than with 50bhp less and a screwed-up chassis. QED.
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Lauren wrote:I'd be the first to admit that I drive like a complete c*** on the road, but it's not necessarily illegal and therein lies the point.


i'm pretty sure that was the opinion of this guy before they sent him down

http://prison-diary.blogspot.com/

no it might not necessarily be illegal but do you think that would be any defence if a child ran out in front of you and you killed them?
they would laugh at you, i cant beleive i am saying this to our own vice chair (how incredibly rediculous is that?) but you really need to start being a bit more carefull about what you type on public forums lauren
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The way I see it EVO magazine et al. talk about sliding cars around and handling. They also publish pictures of cars going sideways on clearly public roads. This kind of thing has even been on 5th gear and Top Gear on occasion, so i'm not overly worried about talking about it.
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Quigonjay wrote:no it might not necessarily be illegal but do you think that would be any defence if a child ran out in front of you and you killed them?
they would laugh at you, i cant beleive i am saying this to our own vice chair (how incredibly rediculous is that?) but you really need to start being a bit more carefull about what you type on public forums lauren


Meh, talking about what if's. :-: The obvious answer which I am surprised you haven't realised is that you don't do that kind of thing outside the gates of a school. FTLOG. :-: Why do people assume that's what i'd do when a load of kids happen to be playing on a roundabout?
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oh right, of course, the only place a child could possibly run out on you is outside a school :?
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Quigonjay wrote:oh right, of course, the only place a child could possibly run out on you is outside a school :?


Do I really have to spell out the obvious? You don't go driving quickly or pushing the car in the kind of situation where there is such a risk.
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Lauren wrote:
Quigonjay wrote:oh right, of course, the only place a child could possibly run out on you is outside a school :?


Do I really have to spell out the obvious?


no, but it seems I do
how do YOU know where the risk is? what is around the corner?
do you have built in radar?
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Quigonjay wrote:
no, but it seems I do
how do YOU know where the risk is? what is around the corner?
do you have built in radar?


I give up!

I don't need built in rader, it's called looking ahead.
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Lauren wrote:i'm not overly worried about talking about it


i hope you dont have to regret saying that one day but as long as you parade around the forums claiming to be as good as top gear/fifth gear/evo magazine at sliding your car around on public roads, i fear you might
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Quigonjay wrote:i hope you dont have to regret saying that one day but as long as you parade around the forums claiming to be as good as top gear/fifth gear/evo magazine at sliding your car around on public roads, i fear you might


Sliding a car around is not a difficult thing to do.
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Lauren wrote:
Quigonjay wrote:i hope you dont have to regret saying that one day but as long as you parade around the forums claiming to be as good as top gear/fifth gear/evo magazine at sliding your car around on public roads, i fear you might


Sliding a car around is not a difficult thing to do.

on the road it's illegal. Lauren, you are full of xxxx with your attitude of it's all right as it's not necessarily illegal exceeding the limit of grip on the road and drifting round a roundabout isn't obviously illegal like speeding so it's ok as well. bull$h1t, utter bull$h1t. If it's not neceesarily illegal then it's clearly not necessarily legal either and if drifting round a roundabout isn't obviously illegal like speeding then it's clearly not obviously legal either so stop fart arsing around with the English language and accept you're xxxxxx wrong [-X
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its a lost cause when your dealing with someone surrounded in self righteousness.
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yeah aint that the truth ](*,)
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Whats the problem again?

Have none of you guys ever got the back end out on the road? I know I have..
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Get it back on topic! I dotn really give 2 shifts if you drive like a loon or not!
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Quigonjay wrote:oh right, of course, the only place a child could possibly run out on you is outside a school :?


Kids don't run out in front of cars any more.

Kids don't play in the streets any more due to the kiddy fiddler round every corner.

Kids sit on park benches getting pi$$ed ar mugging old ladies in shopping centres.

Have you not noticed that if a kid gets killed by a car (they are not joyriding) these days its National News?

I can't remember the last time i saw kids playing football / tennis / touch rugby in the road or building jumps for their bikes like i did in the early 80's. The world has changed, everyones frightened of "what if" and it statistically never happens.
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RobCrezz wrote:Whats the problem again?

Have none of you guys ever got the back end out on the road? I know I have..

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Please note that IMOC Admin would ask you not to post any details of reckless driving, or any illegal activities - including (but not limited to) speeding. If you do post something which breaks these rules then we may moderate you, or may have to release your details to any law enforcement agency which requests them.

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Speedy wrote:Just to bump this, because it's very important you understand why we can't have discussion of illegal speeds etc etc on IMOC.

You may think we are just being pedantic, but this is a public forum, and as such open to anybody and everybody who might be interested in what you are up to in your car - track day organisers, your insurance company, the police etc etc.

We don't want to get put in the situation where somebody is asking us for member information because of posts made in here, so just don't do it. It's really not very hard.

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Its not always about what is legal and what isnt, but rather what is considered morally safe.

Driving a car at 100 mph on a motorway is illegal but not always dangerous.

Driving a car within the speed limit but exceeding its grip is probably not illegal, but does that still make it safe and right?
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allan welsh wrote:
Lauren wrote:
Quigonjay wrote:i hope you dont have to regret saying that one day but as long as you parade around the forums claiming to be as good as top gear/fifth gear/evo magazine at sliding your car around on public roads, i fear you might


Sliding a car around is not a difficult thing to do.

on the road it's illegal. Lauren, you are full of xxxx with your attitude of it's all right as it's not necessarily illegal exceeding the limit of grip on the road and drifting round a roundabout isn't obviously illegal like speeding so it's ok as well. bull$h1t, utter bull$h1t. If it's not neceesarily illegal then it's clearly not necessarily legal either and if drifting round a roundabout isn't obviously illegal like speeding then it's clearly not obviously legal either so stop fart arsing around with the English language and accept you're xxxxxx wrong [-X


It seems to be alright for EVO magazine and top gear and fifth gear to do both published for public consumption and on TV.

If it isn't obviously illegal your point is?
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