[All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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[All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by C Reedit »

At the moment i have a Clio 172 and have been looking for MR2's for a while.......until today!!! There is a guy at work with an MR2 turbo and he challenged me to a 'lunch time play' and i absolutely annihilated him! I had to wait until i got into second to get the power down (in which time he was in front) but as soon as i was in second he became a black dot in my mirror!

This as you can imagine has put me off the slow japanese tractors! How can you guys rave on about them so much?
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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Your mate can't drive.

From: http://www.channel4.com/4car/ft/null/null/1709/8

"Renaultsport 172 Cup (172bhp): 138mph, 0-60 6.8 sec, 34.9mpg"

MR2 Turbo: 0-60 Mid 5s.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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A clio 172 wouldnt even come close to a standard rev 1/2 tubby. If it was a rev 3 standard it would be a walk in the park.

Even considering the age of these cars. An early rev 1 should still be running approx 170 ATW against 172 FWHP of the clio.

The MR2 tubby is in a different league.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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C Reedit wrote:At the moment i have a Clio 172 and have been looking for MR2's for a while.......until today!!! There is a guy at work with an MR2 turbo and he challenged me to a 'lunch time play' and i absolutely annihilated him! I had to wait until i got into second to get the power down (in which time he was in front) but as soon as i was in second he became a black dot in my mirror!

This as you can imagine has put me off the slow japanese tractors! How can you guys rave on about them so much?


I seriously doubt he had a turbo then if that was the case. Most of the MR2 turbo's run a 0-60 time of 5.2 - 5.7 seconds off the factory floor, let alone any modifications.

Chances are he had a N/A (that is naturally aspirated) in which case he'd have the same amount of power as you roughly and more weight, so it is likely that you would defeat him on a race to 60.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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C Reedit wrote:At the moment i have a Clio 172 and have been looking for MR2's for a while.......until today!!! There is a guy at work with an MR2 turbo and he challenged me to a 'lunch time play' and i absolutely annihilated him! I had to wait until i got into second to get the power down (in which time he was in front) but as soon as i was in second he became a black dot in my mirror!

This as you can imagine has put me off the slow japanese tractors! How can you guys rave on about them so much?


His must have been broken.

I don't have an MR2T anymore but you wouldn't know which way a decent running MR2T went in the shopping box. 172bhp thats for children.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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the tubbys either really unwell or ur mates got a n/a and saying its a turbo :lol:

get a well loved tubby with a few mods and trust me you wont look back at your ''french tractor'' :whistle:
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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Even the mid engined 230BHP V6 version with RWD can't do better than 6.4secs to 60, so I can't see a 172 getting anywhere near a Tubby.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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Honestly it was a turbo, i could hear it dumping through my open window when i went passed it! He has had it rolling roaded at 228bhp at the wheels.

Trust me these clios are top banana, the best hot hatch ever made!
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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To expand on the above I would suggest looking at your mate's MR2.

If the engine lid is completely flat - its likely to be an N/A.
If the car has side repeaters on the wing and not "toblerones" near the front inthe rubbing strip - it is likely to be an N/A.
If it has a UK style rectangle plate on the rear and not the square one - it is likely to be an N/A.

Either that or get him to open the engine lid and check the engine yourself.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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To expand on the above I would suggest looking at your mate's MR2.

If the engine lid is completely flat - its likely to be an N/A.
If the car has side repeaters on the wing and not "toblerones" near the front inthe rubbing strip - it is likely to be an N/A.
If it has a UK style rectangle plate on the rear and not the square one - it is likely to be an N/A.

Either that or get him to open the engine lid and check the engine yourself.


And after all that if you still think it's a Turbo, point your mate to the nearest driving school.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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Stupid post. Something not right with that. An MR2 turbo WILL beat a Clio 172 quite comfortably whatever the revision. Fact.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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i think were on a wind up here guys lol ](*,)

172 clio best hot hatch ever..... im sure the williams clio was and still would have a 172 round a track :lol:

anyway moving on, there is absoloutly no way a 172 would stay with a tubby on the straights...

clio trophy was a good bit of kit also :tongue:
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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C Reedit wrote:Honestly it was a turbo, i could hear it dumping through my open window when i went passed it! He has had it rolling roaded at 228bhp at the wheels.

Trust me these clios are top banana, the best hot hatch ever made!


Your clearly someone off the clio forum trying to start a pointless arguement. These STANDARD turbo mr2s do quarter miles into the 13seconds. The clio doesn't stand a chance in hell. To 60 they aren't bad but they're not even in the same league as an mr2 turbo. It's either an n/a with a fake dump valve or it's a bag of spanners with a knackered turbo. Top banana....a banana on wheels would be quicker.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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C Reedit wrote:
Trust me these clios are top banana, the best hot hatch ever made!


Side note.
The best hot hatch ever made was the Lotus Sunbeam.
Was an awesome piece of kit with retro looks.

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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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A williams would never have a 172 round a track, it only has 145bhp!

Honestly i am no amateur at motoring i know what a turbo sounds like. The race has seriously put me off having a MR2 so im thinking of getting a tubo on my clio and then see what other rice waggons will wimper off in the hands of their defeat!
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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:-# Dont feed the troll
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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C Reedit wrote:A williams would never have a 172 round a track, it only has 145bhp!

Honestly i am no amateur at motoring i know what a turbo sounds like. The race has seriously put me off having a MR2 so im thinking of getting a tubo on my clio and then see what other rice waggons will wimper off in the hands of their defeat!


Where are you from?
Fancy coming to a MR2 trackday and testing out your claim?
Have a laugh with some of the owners, compare straight line speed and handling?
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by paulmann »

The only thing a Clio can beat an Mr2t to is the following

a. a mechanic for repairs
b. the scrap yard due to rust

hehe. My friend bought a clio 172 after he sold his audi tt (225). He had it for 2 months before he was bored of the power and got a scooby.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by skipp123 »

i used to have a vts saxo and it was identical all over the rev range with a 172,

then i UPGRADED to a mr2 turbo rev1 with a few bolt ons
1bar boost
filter
exhaust

and trust me it was alot quicker than my old vts
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by wham »

is this guy real? my rev 1 tubby absolutly kills my brothers vts saxo and thats camed up ram air filter and exhaust (full system) there virtually in the same league as a clio!!!!! =;
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