Hello,
So I looked in my MR2 and the coolant has either dissapeared, was never there or has leaked.
I need to fill this up. Worried if I did any damage today having done 150miles in that state???
Since there is nothing to bleed as such what is the best way to flush (or if its even necessry)
Are there any intructions with pics as I dont know what I'm doing/looking for!
bleeding/Filling up coolant
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Re: bleeding/Filling up coolant
thats an interesting one. what was the water temp gauge reading during the journey? if theres coolant in the system it would probably show overheating. if theres no fluid presumably it shows the air temp in the pipes, which may be less?
first id suggest looking at the filler cap for mayonaise. if the head gasket has gone its possible coolant was being burnt in the cylinders. also if it wasnt the cause, possibly overheating the engine might cause the head gasket to go.
then id just fill the system up with water, try to measure out how much you are putting into the system. if its not much then theres coolant in the system and you can relax somewhat. if you have to put a lot in, see if anything is leaking out of the system. if it does thats the first point of call, fix the leak.
after that drain the system. open the bleed valves, one under the plastic radiator cover (passenger side) and the other on the cabin bulkhead by the clutch reservior. reach underneath the bumper on the drivers side, and turn the butterfly screw in the bottom corner of the radiator and let everything drain out, helps to jack the rear of the car up too. once everything is out, keep running water through the system until what comes out is clear. close the system off and fill it with water. add a coolant system flush (available from halford etc), and run the engine up. at this point if the engine has a problem, it will probably be noticable. drain the water, close the system off and fill with toyota long life red coolant. bleed the system using the bleed valves.
hth
first id suggest looking at the filler cap for mayonaise. if the head gasket has gone its possible coolant was being burnt in the cylinders. also if it wasnt the cause, possibly overheating the engine might cause the head gasket to go.
then id just fill the system up with water, try to measure out how much you are putting into the system. if its not much then theres coolant in the system and you can relax somewhat. if you have to put a lot in, see if anything is leaking out of the system. if it does thats the first point of call, fix the leak.
after that drain the system. open the bleed valves, one under the plastic radiator cover (passenger side) and the other on the cabin bulkhead by the clutch reservior. reach underneath the bumper on the drivers side, and turn the butterfly screw in the bottom corner of the radiator and let everything drain out, helps to jack the rear of the car up too. once everything is out, keep running water through the system until what comes out is clear. close the system off and fill it with water. add a coolant system flush (available from halford etc), and run the engine up. at this point if the engine has a problem, it will probably be noticable. drain the water, close the system off and fill with toyota long life red coolant. bleed the system using the bleed valves.
hth
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Re: bleeding/Filling up coolant
dantheman wrote:....close the system off and fill with toyota long life red coolant. bleed the system using the bleed valves.
Thanks does help. No mayo so hoping engine is fine.
Although I was with you up until the point above. So once I fill it with longlife i then need to bleed it again? Isn't that removing all the coolant I just put in?!
Sorry - but I'm a mechanic noob.
Re: bleeding/Filling up coolant
Follow this (or get a mechanic to follow it )...
http://www.mr2oc.co.uk/know-your-2/mk2/ ... ement.html
Obviously skip the bits that relate to removing the radiator
http://www.mr2oc.co.uk/know-your-2/mk2/ ... ement.html
Obviously skip the bits that relate to removing the radiator
Re: bleeding/Filling up coolant
a little bit, but not much. attach 2 pieces of (preferably clear) hose to the bleed nipples and suspend them from the open bonnet lid. open the bleed valves at the front of the car until the coolant comes to the top of the filler neck. then fill the overflow reservior. you will probably find the level of coolant in the (clear) hoses isnt very much. put the filler cap on to the first click point, and close the bleed valves. put your heating to maximum hot (you dont have to turn fan on though) and run the engine for 3 mins at 3000 rpm (or until coolant is hot). let it cool down a little and open the filler cap (or if you feel brave dont wait, but be very careful of any steam, use a towel). open bleed valves again, and top up coolant as neccessary.
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Re: bleeding/Filling up coolant
dantheman wrote:a little bit, but not much. attach 2 pieces of (preferably clear) hose to the bleed nipples and suspend them from the open bonnet lid. open the bleed valves at the front of the car until the coolant comes to the top of the filler neck. then fill the overflow reservior. you will probably find the level of coolant in the (clear) hoses isnt very much. put the filler cap on to the first click point, and close the bleed valves. put your heating to maximum hot (you dont have to turn fan on though) and run the engine for 3 mins at 3000 rpm (or until coolant is hot). let it cool down a little and open the filler cap (or if you feel brave dont wait, but be very careful of any steam, use a towel). open bleed valves again, and top up coolant as neccessary.
Cool! Thanks guys. Will attempt next week once I get my friends trolley jack (and assistance)!
JohnnyC, thanks for the link - with pictures! exactly my sort of guide! Printable and understandable!
Re: bleeding/Filling up coolant
Just one quick answer.
If I want to top up the coolant level is just fill at the filler cap until the coolant reaches there?
And what about the reserve tank... Is it doing anything? At least for what I saw it's only a place where the excess coolant goes in. Am I right?
Cheers!
If I want to top up the coolant level is just fill at the filler cap until the coolant reaches there?
And what about the reserve tank... Is it doing anything? At least for what I saw it's only a place where the excess coolant goes in. Am I right?
Cheers!
Re: bleeding/Filling up coolant
yes if you just want to top it up fill it from the filler cap until just before overflowing. then top up the expansion tank.
the expansion tank is there because when the coolant is hot it expands, so needs more space. the extra coolant goes into the expansion tank, and is sucked back into the system when the coolant cools down
the expansion tank is there because when the coolant is hot it expands, so needs more space. the extra coolant goes into the expansion tank, and is sucked back into the system when the coolant cools down
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Re: bleeding/Filling up coolant
dantheman wrote:yes if you just want to top it up fill it from the filler cap until just before overflowing. then top up the expansion tank.
the expansion tank is there because when the coolant is hot it expands, so needs more space. the extra coolant goes into the expansion tank, and is sucked back into the system when the coolant cools down
aha. Cool. So I'm not low on coolant as such then.
I was worrying as the expansion tank (the clear bottle right?) is empty. But there is defo coolant in the car. So should I bother with the coolant flush? I suppose it would at least give me the peace of mind that its running Toyota LongLife.
Re: bleeding/Filling up coolant
the expansion tank is white and slightly clear, located by the fuse box. theres a tube going to it from the filler cap. you can never go wrong with a coolant flush really. but if you have no reason to suspect it needs it then you dont need to do it. the coolant filler neck should always be brimmed. if its not theres air in the system. brimmed neck and empty expansion tank is ok. filled tank but not brimmed neck is not a problem, but theres air in the system. if the coolant neck is not brimmed and the expansion tank is empty, you dont have enough coolant in the system and a complete flush to reset everything isnt a bad idea.