sbits don't mean to butt in blah blah blah
But you did anyway.
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This thread was started by Andy purely to generate an open discussion of views, opinions etc.
It was a provocative opening statement deliberately!
Interesting how I end up getting a lecture.
Hmmm, and guess who it's from
But i say shame on the tuner who allows the customer to do this to his own car.
Why? You sell
(and when it's not raining) install for example, boost controllers, as do many companies all over the world which give plenty of potential to damage an engine.
I'm sure you sell other kit also quite capable of blowing an engine.
Most owners are intelligent adults.
Most are also part of valuable communities such as this one, both here and overseas, where there is a wealth of information, experience and open discussion.
Andy is well aware of the proven limits of the 3S-GTE and is also not daft when it comes to picking up a bit of theory, so he knows there is a risk invloved.
Maybe its about time someone actually pushed the envelope and noted what the OE internals can actually take with GOOD TUNING.
Exactly
- And the risk can be minimised in all sorts of ways, and as has been stated, the mapper is a critical area in all this.
As is the accurate and reliable control of charge temp, fuel mixture and detonation.
IMHO, those need to be sorted whatever level of boost is run, and i agree, the higher one goes, the lesser the margins for error.
And yes i agree again, stock internals reduce that margin further.
So we come back to the mapper again.
and our tuners.
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.is going to be like a armed hand grenade
Who say's we are using one of
"your" tuners????
We will try to avoid them.
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Want to make it easy for me and give me a list?
Tell us all if you like.
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Every stage of any of my customers' car's development, whether it be chassis or engine, is discussed at length, the pros, cons, risks and gains being investigated.
At the end of the day the world is full of individuals.
Those that stand out by being a little better in some way have invariably fallen down on the way, and got up, carried on, learned, and become even stronger.
Others find security in sticking within clearly defined limits.
Neither is wrong, both are right.
Just different.
Anyway, maybe Andy's current engine is just passing the time whilst we build one for the summer
damn 5th Lumber Disc 
