Experiences in a MK1.5

[Speedy]

I have to agree about keeping the SE standard(ish). Nothing against 1.5s or whatever, but it is a little piece of Mr2 history, and it would be a shame to start chopping it about, when you could do the same thing to another mk1 instead.

[Rosssco]

What you looking at, £5k for a respectable condition Hachi-Rouki (think thats right?), and I only see the point in paying that if your going drifting; AW11 faster road car....

Well its what i like and its what i want i guess. I've always loved these since i was 12.

But, i would be using it on track and doing my drifting/fast driving there. Not sure that a mk1 is faster at all tbh given the eight-six's lighter weight, but there is much, much more to a car than simply how fast it is.

Ofcourse, I totally agree! I suppose its a supply and demand thing for the prices of 86's ie. lots want them and the Irish have them! Just the sort of car you have to really want and appreciate I guess when paying £5k for one, when and equivalent age / condition AW11 will come in at £1.5k... But you've perhaps got the T-shirt AW11 wise..

Diverging away a bit from the OP, but an AE86 is very similar in weight to a mk1a (would be equivalent for age), perhaps 25kg in it IIRC.

Re: converting a SE into a 1.5, yep, its just a supercharger with t1ts, but as car, selling it and spending the money (plus a little more perhaps) will be cheaper than effectively tieing the money up in the car and spending yet more on converting it to 1.5 spec (IMHO), as theres always some mug willing to pay through the nose for 'rare spec'

[Mk1 Turbo Powered Steve]

I agree with you about the my SE but the car will still look the same,it will only be when i open up the engine lid and i rarely do that because it's a mess and would take a fair bit of time to get it looking decent, like some of those nice shiny ones at JAE, so i could make it into a 1.5, not bother to open the lid and nobody would know the difference, other than everybody on here of course
I just want my car to have more power than it has and without spending a fortune on it, i cant see where i'm going to get it from!
AFAIK mine has near enough everything it needs for the conversion already, thats as long as the spare SC box i have will be good enough, once it's recconed, which i have been told by Ian Royale , who works for Toyota and was at JAE, will be able to get all the parts needed and do it for £500
The SC engine in mine is fine, had cambelt changed about 2 thousand miles ago. Since i have owned it, always had regular good quality oil changes and done around 63,000 miles, so maybe it might be worth me selling it, if i do go for the 1.5, especially if i can get £500 for it, that will help to pay towards the conversion

I think i will need to have a word with Woodsy and find out how much it will all cost.
Anybody got his email address, as i'm not on Two Brutal at the moment, i was but i lost details when they changed server.



Sorry for going on so much!

[Lauren]

I agree with you about the my SE but the car will still look the same,it will only be when i open up the engine lid and i rarely do that because it's a mess and would take a fair bit of time to get it looking decent, like some of those nice shiny ones at JAE, so i could make it into a 1.5, not bother to open the lid and nobody would know the difference, other than everybody on here of course
I just want my car to have more power than it has and without spending a fortune on it, i cant see where i'm going to get it from!
AFAIK mine has near enough everything it needs for the conversion already, thats as long as the spare SC box i have will be good enough, once it's recconed, which i have been told by Ian Royale , who works for Toyota and was at JAE, will be able to get all the parts needed and do it for £500
The SC engine in mine is fine, had cambelt changed about 2 thousand miles ago. Since i have owned it, always had regular good quality oil changes and done around 63,000 miles, so maybe it might be worth me selling it, if i do go for the 1.5, especially if i can get £500 for it, that will help to pay towards the conversion

I think i will need to have a word with Woodsy and find out how much it will all cost.
Anybody got his email address, as i'm not on Two Brutal at the moment, i was but i lost details when they changed server.

Sorry for going on so much!

Well its your car i guess.

Am guessing the cost for a turnkey conversion is going to be 3K+?

[Mk1 Turbo Powered Steve]

If it's going to cost me 3k, i probably won't do it, i was looking at more like 2k, as i already have most of what it needs, other than the engine!
I need to speak to Woodsy and see what he has to say

[Speedy]

Diverging away a bit from the OP, but an AE86 is very similar in weight to a mk1a (would be equivalent for age), perhaps 25kg in it IIRC.

I'd be interested to know for sure, but I think the '86 is going to be a fair amount lighter than an AW11.

[mr2mk1chick]

After all, an SE is just an mr2 with stickers, paint, seats and steering wheel, it doesn't have a SE performance enhancement or special engine so there's no loss there by chucking out the gze.

financial loss due to these beign worth more in std guise, plus the heratige man!!

[mr2mk1chick]

I agree with you about the my SE but the car will still look the same,it will only be when i open up the engine lid and i rarely do that because it's a mess and would take a fair bit of time to get it looking decent, like some of those nice shiny ones at JAE, so i could make it into a 1.5, not bother to open the lid and nobody would know the difference, other than everybody on here of course
I just want my car to have more power than it has and without spending a fortune on it, i cant see where i'm going to get it from!
AFAIK mine has near enough everything it needs for the conversion already, thats as long as the spare SC box i have will be good enough, once it's recconed, which i have been told by Ian Royale , who works for Toyota and was at JAE, will be able to get all the parts needed and do it for £500
The SC engine in mine is fine, had cambelt changed about 2 thousand miles ago. Since i have owned it, always had regular good quality oil changes and done around 63,000 miles, so maybe it might be worth me selling it, if i do go for the 1.5, especially if i can get £500 for it, that will help to pay towards the conversion

I think i will need to have a word with Woodsy and find out how much it will all cost.
Anybody got his email address, as i'm not on Two Brutal at the moment, i was but i lost details when they changed server.



Sorry for going on so much!

TBH as i have said to you before, you would be quids in to sell your se sc (£3k++), and buy another std sc to convert (2-2.5K), or even a good na (£1.5K)
then you have freed up cash for the conversion

[mr2mk1chick]

Cheers Ollie.

Not a problem Lauren, you are the one person who I really wanted to let have a go. I wasn't scared for a minute, honest

Ps, it was great to meet you and mark properly, similar interests and all that!!

What was your opinion of the 1.5 Lauren, now that you have had a go?

[Rosssco]

Diverging away a bit from the OP, but an AE86 is very similar in weight to a mk1a (would be equivalent for age), perhaps 25kg in it IIRC.

I'd be interested to know for sure, but I think the '86 is going to be a fair amount lighter than an AW11.

I was fairly sure (for some strange reason) that the AE86 came in at roughly 950kg, and the mk1a (coupe)around 975kg.....? AW11 certainly has the heavier chassis (how many firewalls!), but will have a lighter drive train due to just having a gearbox, as opposed to a gearbox and transaxle set-up. I don't know basically

Steve, as you say, best man to talk to is Mr. Woods, or re-join and put up a post on TB. I know you say you have the gearbox / shafts etc already there, but the SC gearbox (although virtually the same internals) has a different bellhousing (although I'll happily be proved wrong here), so best check that this will bolt onto the 3S-GTE / V6 like a mk2 gear box does... Also, if it resides in the mk1 engine bay at a slightly different location to a typical mk1.5 gearbox, you may be looking at different engine mounts to those already tried and tested, again another question....

So worst case is your gearbox and shafts create more problems and you have to abandon these, then your losing your major advantage there and adding more cost (theres some cost effective replacements to gearbox and shafts), therefore becoming more cost effective (I know I keep rattling on about money!) to sell and replace...food for thought mate.

[Lauren]

I was fairly sure (for some strange reason) that the AE86 came in at roughly 950kg, and the mk1a (coupe)around 975kg.....? AW11 certainly has the heavier chassis (how many firewalls!), but will have a lighter drive train due to just having a gearbox, as opposed to a gearbox and transaxle set-up. I don't know basically

MK1a = 1030kg without fuel. (weight of mine on a weighbridge). Its got to be a fair bit heavier due to it having two more bulkheads than an 86.

[Lauren]

What was your opinion of the 1.5 Lauren, now that you have had a go?

See my earlier post Jo.

[Mk1 Turbo Powered Steve]

I agree with you about the my SE but the car will still look the same,it will only be when i open up the engine lid and i rarely do that because it's a mess and would take a fair bit of time to get it looking decent, like some of those nice shiny ones at JAE, so i could make it into a 1.5, not bother to open the lid and nobody would know the difference, other than everybody on here of course
I just want my car to have more power than it has and without spending a fortune on it, i cant see where i'm going to get it from!
AFAIK mine has near enough everything it needs for the conversion already, thats as long as the spare SC box i have will be good enough, once it's recconed, which i have been told by Ian Royale , who works for Toyota and was at JAE, will be able to get all the parts needed and do it for £500
The SC engine in mine is fine, had cambelt changed about 2 thousand miles ago. Since i have owned it, always had regular good quality oil changes and done around 63,000 miles, so maybe it might be worth me selling it, if i do go for the 1.5, especially if i can get £500 for it, that will help to pay towards the conversion

I think i will need to have a word with Woodsy and find out how much it will all cost.
Anybody got his email address, as i'm not on Two Brutal at the moment, i was but i lost details when they changed server.



Sorry for going on so much!

TBH as i have said to you before, you would be quids in to sell your se sc (£3k++), and buy another std sc to convert (2-2.5K), or even a good na (£1.5K)
then you have freed up cash for the conversion

The thing is i wouldn't want to let it go for much under 4K especially as i have seen what Sc's are going for in Japan, they might have a bit lower mileage but mine is almost as good!
Mine just needs a small amount of spray work and it would look as good as those!
I hope i'm not re'selling it to me

[Mk1 Turbo Powered Steve]

Please somebody give me Woodsy's email address, then i will have more idea, at what i'm looking at

[Lauren]

The thing is i wouldn't want to let it go for much under 4K especially as i have seen what Sc's are going for in Japan, they might have a bit lower mileage but mine is almost as good!
Mine just needs a small amount of spray work and it would look as good as those!
I hope i'm not re'selling it to me

Thing is Steve, there are a lot of original items missing (seats are a real shame) and remember what you paid for it(!).

Either way you'll make money on it but be realistic.

[Lauren]

Please somebody give me Woodsy's email address, then i will have more idea, at what i'm looking at

Well, an educated guess might be: [email protected]

I looked in the affiliate section.

[Mk1 Turbo Powered Steve]

The thing is i wouldn't want to let it go for much under 4K especially as i have seen what Sc's are going for in Japan, they might have a bit lower mileage but mine is almost as good!
Mine just needs a small amount of spray work and it would look as good as those!
I hope i'm not re'selling it to me

Thing is Steve, there are a lot of original items missing (seats are a real shame) and remember what you paid for it(!).

Either way you'll make money on it but be realistic.

Thing is i wouldn't be selling it as an SE, just an Sc, if they are now asking 6K to bring one in that i feel is not much better than mine, what would you do?

[Lauren]

Thing is i wouldn't be selling it as an SE, just an Sc, if they are now asking 6K to bring one in that i feel is not much better than mine, what would you do!

Well 3-3.5K sounds reasonable then doesn't it?

Honestly don't think you'll make 4K but if someone wants to pay that for it then, great.

Its worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it at the end of the day.

You can't base the worth on your car on one imported example that is coming in costing 6K can you?

Remember that your car was originally imported by Chris Bassett who refused to pay for the car on arrival (he paid a fair sum), and got a refund IIRC, then he went and bought Nick's (old friend of Mark and I) SE which was in much better condition and original.

[Mk1 Turbo Powered Steve]

Thing is i wouldn't be selling it as an SE, just an Sc, if they are now asking 6K to bring one in that i feel is not much better than mine, what would you do!

Well 3-3.5K sounds reasonable then doesn't it?

Honestly don't think you'll make 4K but if someone wants to pay that for it then, great.

Its worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it at the end of the day.

You can't base the worth on your car on one imported example that is coming in costing 6K can you?

Remember that your car was originally imported by Chris Bassett who refused to pay for the car on arrival (he paid a fair sum), and got a refund IIRC, then he went and bought Nick's (old friend of Mark and I) SE which was in much better condition and original.

I agree with you Lauren, i know i got a fantastic price for mine but i'm sure you would try to get as much as you can get!

[Lauren]

I agree with you Lauren, i know i got a fantastic price for mine but i'm sure you would try to get as much as you can get!

Absolutely. You'll certainly do well on it.