Brake upgrade

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Re: Brake upgrade

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bobhatton wrote:Nice big brake kit.

http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=572801

well after taking your advice I'm sure he'll fit the stock rev1 brakes with the porterfield pads and everything will be fine. Save himself a stack of money :thumleft:
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Re: Brake upgrade

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2mad wrote:Point me in the right direction .. if portfield can do half what carbotech ax6's can do im in :thumleft:



I dont think portfields is anywhere as good as carbotech and the prices are not much different after tax and p&p

Carbotech will last long too
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Re: Brake upgrade

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QUOC2008 wrote:
2mad wrote:Point me in the right direction .. if portfield can do half what carbotech ax6's can do im in :thumleft:



I dont think portfields is anywhere as good as carbotech and the prices are not much different after tax and p&p

Carbotech will last long too



I have found Porterfield to be much better and lasted for 3 years on my daily driven road car
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Re: Brake upgrade

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bobhatton wrote:
QUOC2008 wrote:
2mad wrote:Point me in the right direction .. if portfield can do half what carbotech ax6's can do im in :thumleft:



I dont think portfields is anywhere as good as carbotech and the prices are not much different after tax and p&p

Carbotech will last long too



I have found Porterfield to be much better and lasted for 3 years on my daily driven road car


I didn't think you had tried the Carbotech's Bob? I did ask you how the Porterfields compared dust wise and you told me you couldn't comment cos you had never tried Carbotechs...I was disappointed cos if the Porterfields are indeed as good as Carbotechs, but without the dust issue then I'm in!
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Re: Brake upgrade

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ashley wrote:
bobhatton wrote:
QUOC2008 wrote:


I dont think portfields is anywhere as good as carbotech and the prices are not much different after tax and p&p

Carbotech will last long too



I have found Porterfield to be much better and lasted for 3 years on my daily driven road car


I didn't think you had tried the Carbotech's Bob? I did ask you how the Porterfields compared dust wise and you told me you couldn't comment cos you had never tried Carbotechs.


I have never driven a car for a long time with Carbotech on so do not know about how bad the dust is.
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Re: Brake upgrade

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Gotcha :thumleft:

The dust with Carbotech's is bad, but I've always put up with it cos the braking effort was worth it.

Undecided if I want to risk running Carbotechs with my nice shiney Te37s though...might check out the Portefields afterall if they do indeed brake as well as the Carbotechs...
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Re: Brake upgrade

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+1 ashley i wouldnt mind trying portfields aswell but if they r not as good i would be very unhappy and porterfields are not cheap...

i have tried many but no other pads have compared or come close to carbotech ax6 or xp8

Tried

ds2500 crap no real bite normal
pagids rs14 & rs29 i think its working oh no crap its not!
ebc all the colours CRAP death trap pads worse then oem pads
brembo ok ok ok then fade city

carbotech ax6 the best street and track pads bite from cold 10degrees TO inifinity just make sure ur disc are up to the job

carbotech xp8 the best for lots of track use and abit of street not good from cold but when they are warmed up bang stops you like a bus just hit you head on no fade... infinity limits just make sure ur disc are up to the job
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Re: Brake upgrade

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QUOC2008 wrote:+1 ashley i wouldnt mind trying portfields aswell but if they r not as good i would be very unhappy and porterfields are not cheap...

i have tried many but no other pads have compared or come close to carbotech ax6 or xp8

Tried

ds2500 crap no real bite normal
pagids rs14 & rs29 i think its working oh no crap its not!
ebc all the colours CRAP death trap pads worse then oem pads
brembo ok ok ok then fade city

carbotech ax6 the best street and track pads bite from cold 10degrees TO inifinity just make sure ur disc are up to the job

carbotech xp8 the best for lots of track use and abit of street not good from cold but when they are warmed up bang stops you like a bus just hit you head on no fade... infinity limits just make sure ur disc are up to the job


Lol I run ebc. Havent died yet. Red are no good for the road though.

DS2500. One of the best pads I have used
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Re: Brake upgrade

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kev8611 wrote:
QUOC2008 wrote:+1 ashley i wouldnt mind trying portfields aswell but if they r not as good i would be very unhappy and porterfields are not cheap...

i have tried many but no other pads have compared or come close to carbotech ax6 or xp8

Tried

ds2500 crap no real bite normal
pagids rs14 & rs29 i think its working oh no crap its not!
ebc all the colours CRAP death trap pads worse then oem pads
brembo ok ok ok then fade city

carbotech ax6 the best street and track pads bite from cold 10degrees TO inifinity just make sure ur disc are up to the job

carbotech xp8 the best for lots of track use and abit of street not good from cold but when they are warmed up bang stops you like a bus just hit you head on no fade... infinity limits just make sure ur disc are up to the job


Lol I run ebc. Havent died yet. Red are no good for the road though.

DS2500. One of the best pads I have used


ok ds2500 are ok abit better then oem... but no real difference at 100mph+ then oem

i trust carbotech with my life over 160-0mph+ bite is really good and it wont fade even when flames are coming out of them

got them carbotech on all my cars 3000gt, mr2 turbo, evo x, evo 9 and e250 merc thats how much i like them
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Re: Brake upgrade

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I guess its just a matter of opinion then.

Depends what you use them for. My ebc's are great for fast road/ light track use but maybe theyre not designed for track use constantly so maybe they get problems but I wouldnt say theyre crap or you will die if you fit them.

Its a bit like saying a ph2 screwdriver is useless because it struggles to fit/remove a pozi screw. Still a screwdriver but not being used what its designed for so people say its crap.

I cant justify spending 150 to 200 on pads for what i do so i guess in that sense, people who fit 8 pot kits will say carbotechs and standard discs are crap.
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Re: Brake upgrade

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kev8611 wrote:I guess its just a matter of opinion then.

Depends what you use them for. My ebc's are great for fast road/ light track use but maybe theyre not designed for track use constantly so maybe they get problems but I wouldnt say theyre crap or you will die if you fit them.

Its a bit like saying a ph2 screwdriver is useless because it struggles to fit/remove a pozi screw. Still a screwdriver but not being used what its designed for so people say its crap.

I cant justify spending 150 to 200 on pads for what i do so i guess in that sense, people who fit 8 pot kits will say carbotechs and standard discs are crap.


Have you tried Carbotechs?
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Re: Brake upgrade

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Carbotechs vs yellow there is NO compassion ... carbotech gave me a middle pedal like never before .. i could scrub 100+mph to 50 for a chicane in what felt like a few meters .. no other pad on any car i've had could do this .. and totaly effortless .

I used to brake early so the car behind didnt rear end me .. there that good .
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Re: Brake upgrade

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Exactly wat 2mad said... try them and you will know! To be honest i think my d2 8pot big brake kit is rubbish and standard oem calipers with carbotech and good disc that wont crack would do 20x better then ebc on my d2 8pots i have tried it already.

Braking is not a issue anymore its the people behind u got to watch out for...

And in terms of price they will last longer then your disc will soo £150 pad lasting 3x longer then ebc is a saving

Try them and u will know they are serious beat any big brake kit and u will never go back to anything else. Braking u never worry about anymore.
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Re: Brake upgrade

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QUOC2008 wrote:

Braking is not a issue anymore its the people behind u got to watch out for...



Glad it wasn't just me .. i had one eye on the rear view mirror if someone was on my bumper .. they couldn't brake like i could .. changes your driving style i can tell you.
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Re: Brake upgrade

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Don't forget, pads are only as good as your tyres allow them to be. If you have cheap tyres, no pads will improve your brakes.


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Re: Brake upgrade

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No I haven't tried them because for what I do my ebc's with Brembo HC's do me fine.

Comparing oranges and apples here, Obviously these super duper pads will be better for track use than the "death traps" I have fitted due to them being more expensive.

Just seems because people own a set of pads, they are the best you can buy, all others opinions are irrelevant... But i suppose thats what this forums about :roll:
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Re: Brake upgrade

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Kev honestly mate they are like compering nankang to t1r's .. just giving my honest opinion .. and i have yellows on my car now .. they scare me .
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Re: Brake upgrade

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and whats the price difference in them? I dont rate T1r's tbh
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Re: Brake upgrade

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kev8611 wrote:No I haven't tried them because for what I do my ebc's with Brembo HC's do me fine.

Comparing oranges and apples here, Obviously these super duper pads will be better for track use than the "death traps" I have fitted due to them being more expensive.

Just seems because people own a set of pads, they are the best you can buy, all others opinions are irrelevant... But i suppose thats what this forums about :roll:


Not at all- it's just that if you haven't tried them, you should if you get the chance...you will honestly be impressed just how well they stop the car, they really are that good.

My old NA really was nothing special in the engine department- I did rebuild it and squeeze some extra ponies out of it, and the car was fully stripped out/ caged/ etc...but it was always the braking performance that people were surprised with.

I drove my uncle in it and he was amazed, to the extent that I drove him full out in my turbo and he was like "yeah, it goes- but it ain't nothing compared to the other one...that one felt much more hardcore just cos of how quick it stopped"

I was disappointed cos I thought the whole boost thing was much more impressive (not to mention over twice the power)! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Brake upgrade

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kev8611 wrote:No I haven't tried them because for what I do my ebc's with Brembo HC's do me fine.

Comparing oranges and apples here, Obviously these super duper pads will be better for track use than the "death traps" I have fitted due to them being more expensive.

Just seems because people own a set of pads, they are the best you can buy, all others opinions are irrelevant... But i suppose thats what this forums about :roll:


I use these 99% on road and street in london and 1% on track and is my daily driver car.
I use to believe any old pad will do as they are all the same with alittle difference and thought big brake kits etc are way to go until one day i read a whole aload of forums evo rx7 gtr honda etc and all said carbotech no real negatives eg. Price, dust, disc etc apart from that... all 100% positive so hmm tried and tested ax6 i was shock how good they were.
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