QUOC2008 wrote: I just dont like it when someone that hasnt tested these things and assume that they know
I agree, but we dont all have the cash to go buy lots of different set ups to try them all, so sharing info on a forum like this is really helpful providing we can understand what you are saying.
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OK- lets make it really simple to try and explain why
& what we are asking
(all meant in good faith as I am genuinely interested to know the answer)
Your car drives along a road.
The wheel hits a bump.
The wheel gets pushed up relative to the chassis by the bump, and the SPRING allows this movement.
The harder the spring- the more it resists this movement in the wheel, and so the more the bump is transferred into the chassis and the more you feel it.
OK so far.
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With no dampers there is nothing to moderate the bounce/ rebound action you get with a spring, so the chassis would bounce up and down after hitting the bump.
The damper is designed to damp the spring action, and stop the bounce/ rebound action from continuing and making you feel sick.
The higher the damping force, the quicker this bounce/ rebound action is absorbed.
OK.
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Now it gets a bit more complicated.
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In order to change how your car handles in different situations
(eg bumpy b-roads vs.
a flat track) people like to have adjustable suspension.
In an ideal world you would use different springs in each situation.
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.but swapping springs is a hassle, so we have coilovers with adjustable levels of damping.
This allows the dampers to be firmed up for a flatter/ harsher ride on the flat track.
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.or softened down for a more compliant ride on bumpy roads.
OK, except this is a compromise- because you haven't actually changed the primary tool to deal with the bumps in the first place- that is the springs.
The downside is you can either run soft springs
- which allows you to have a comfortable ride down the b-road, and then dial up the damper stiffness for the track, but you end up underspringing the car and the handling suffers round bends as you are effectively just relying on the dampers to deal with all the forces so by the end of the corner your car is no longer flat.
Or you can run harder springs, so you are running on the springs on the track round those long, high g corners.
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.but on the b-road you can't soften the dampers down enough to get rid of the harshness.
Or you run a compromise mid range spring that is not ideally dialed in to either the track or the road, and end up with a harsh road ride, and slightly undersprung track handling.
So back to the point.
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You have swapped from BC to MeisterR coilovers.
You say the MeisterR's p1$$ on the BC for ride comfort.
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.ok but how do we judge what you are saying?
Without knowing the comparable spring rates we have no way of judging whether this is purely because you now have softer springs
(so more comfort on the b-road), but have a set up that is compromised for flat track handling.
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.or whether you actually have the same spring rates, but the marketing blurb from MeisterR is correct, and they have developed damping technology to give superior ride and handling without the need to swap out springs.
So really easy question if we want to understand your comparison please:
What spring rates have you got on your new suspension?
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