[Mk2] [Turbo] !!! REV2 Turbo Mappable ECU !!!

[stiggy]

never gona happen bump!

Another one for good luck. If only it would happen Telling people about something should only be done when what you have for sale to the community is almost ready, not 10 years before you can be bothered releasing it.

I've sent the developer a few pms myself and to be fair, he's a top chap and has replied in detail several times, but i'm just so so confused as to why he isn't getting this out there, making good cash and helping out us owners.

It's not that he doesn't want to sell these ECU's himself that bothers me - it's perfectly understandable given the amount of effort involved in hand modifying and testing stock ECU's and given all the things that can go wrong in selling these for what will be a small return per unit.

But by not publishing what he's found with regards to the workings of and how he has modified the stock ECU and possibly even releasing the software he made to remap it once modified he's forcing anyone else who may be able to look into this to start from square one. Look at the megasquirt project, where would that be now if people didn't document what they've learnt over the years?

Ultimately, either start selling these ECU's or release your info so somebody else can.

[JMR_AW11]

never gona happen bump!

Another one for good luck. If only it would happen Telling people about something should only be done when what you have for sale to the community is almost ready, not 10 years before you can be bothered releasing it.

I've sent the developer a few pms myself and to be fair, he's a top chap and has replied in detail several times, but i'm just so so confused as to why he isn't getting this out there, making good cash and helping out us owners.

It's not that he doesn't want to sell these ECU's himself that bothers me - it's perfectly understandable given the amount of effort involved in hand modifying and testing stock ECU's and given all the things that can go wrong in selling these for what will be a small return per unit.

But by not publishing what he's found with regards to the workings of and how he has modified the stock ECU and possibly even releasing the software he made to remap it once modified he's forcing anyone else who may be able to look into this to start from square one. Look at the megasquirt project, where would that be now if people didn't document what they've learnt over the years?

Ultimately, either start selling these ECU's or release your info so somebody else can.

A few points...

I can't say anything about price or delivery of these ECUs or the mods delete my posts because I'm considered as a trader.

Contrary to the negative comments you read on this thread I HAVE sold remappable ECUs (with software) to people.

I sold the first one over a year ago.

This thread isn't meant to be my 'progress' blog. I don't have any obligation to post updates on here. Even if I tried, the stuff I post would be moderated/deleted.

[stiggy]

It's not that he doesn't want to sell these ECU's himself that bothers me - it's perfectly understandable given the amount of effort involved in hand modifying and testing stock ECU's and given all the things that can go wrong in selling these for what will be a small return per unit.

But by not publishing what he's found with regards to the workings of and how he has modified the stock ECU and possibly even releasing the software he made to remap it once modified he's forcing anyone else who may be able to look into this to start from square one. Look at the megasquirt project, where would that be now if people didn't document what they've learnt over the years?

Ultimately, either start selling these ECU's or release your info so somebody else can.

A few points...

I can't say anything about price or delivery of these ECUs or the mods delete my posts because I'm considered as a trader.

Contrary to the negative comments you read on this thread I HAVE sold remappable ECUs (with software) to people.

I sold the first one over a year ago.

This thread isn't meant to be my 'progress' blog. I don't have any obligation to post updates on here. Even if I tried, the stuff I post would be moderated/deleted.

Fair point on price, but that can be done elsewhere. Are you saying the mods of this forum wont let you post updates on progress and when these ECU's could be available? Thats rediculous! Though I suppose you could say it's free advertising to a certain extent, it's effectively hindering progress on a mappable stock ECU - something sorely lacking from the 3SGTE community.

I know you've sold a few testers, but are you saying these units are actually available to anyone should someone want one? Because thats not the impression I've got from your earlier comments!

Where is your progress blog then? Do you have some sort of website?

Of course you dont - but then you never had any obligation to do any of this in the first place. It'd just be nice for the community if you'd either start flogging these or release the info so somebody else can.

[JMR_AW11]

It's not that he doesn't want to sell these ECU's himself that bothers me - it's perfectly understandable given the amount of effort involved in hand modifying and testing stock ECU's and given all the things that can go wrong in selling these for what will be a small return per unit.

But by not publishing what he's found with regards to the workings of and how he has modified the stock ECU and possibly even releasing the software he made to remap it once modified he's forcing anyone else who may be able to look into this to start from square one. Look at the megasquirt project, where would that be now if people didn't document what they've learnt over the years?

Ultimately, either start selling these ECU's or release your info so somebody else can.

A few points...

I can't say anything about price or delivery of these ECUs or the mods delete my posts because I'm considered as a trader.

Contrary to the negative comments you read on this thread I HAVE sold remappable ECUs (with software) to people.

I sold the first one over a year ago.

This thread isn't meant to be my 'progress' blog. I don't have any obligation to post updates on here. Even if I tried, the stuff I post would be moderated/deleted.

Fair point on price, but that can be done elsewhere. Are you saying the mods of this forum wont let you post updates on progress and when these ECU's could be available? Thats rediculous! Though I suppose you could say it's free advertising to a certain extent, it's effectively hindering progress on a mappable stock ECU - something sorely lacking from the 3SGTE community.

I know you've sold a few testers, but are you saying these units are actually available to anyone should someone want one? Because thats not the impression I've got from your earlier comments!

Where is your progress blog then? Do you have some sort of website?

Of course you dont - but then you never had any obligation to do any of this in the first place. It'd just be nice for the community if you'd either start flogging these or release the info so somebody else can.

Maybe this will help.

Do this tomorrow....

Find an electronics company with some reasonably talented engineers (I'm nothing special when it comes to MCU chips) and ask them to quote you how long it would take to produce a board with fully tested software.

My guess is they would say 9-12months with three engineers working on the project with about 70% loading.

If you went ahead with it it would almost certainly be late by a month or two at least.

What I have achieved, I've done in my spare time. I have a full time design job.

The company I work for has just won the Queen's Award for Innovation this year, and I help design stuff that saves peoples' lives in hostile countries. Designing ECUs for 18 year old cars has to take second place, but all things considered I still think I've achieved quite a bit on this project.

If the above 'doesn't' help then I suggest you accept that the Toyota community has had 18 years to produce what you are demanding. Anyone could have started 'from scratch' froma as early as 1991. But they didn't. I first looked at the ECU just over two years ago (IIRC)

[raptor95GTS]

Jeremy is under no obligation to either continue this work nor publish what he's done so far. It's his time, his effort and his choice. There are alternatives out there fully mappable and have displays for the dash so if you want something now, go buy it.

[Lewis Jay]

for what its worth jeremys done the same thing over on twobrutal,developed a v6 programmable ecu,tested it,promised us cheap units and then disappeared off the planet....we even set up a funding thread were some 25 members were willing to donate money into a pot for jeremy to get his initial prototypes off the ground.

Now the only person that stood to gain financially was jeremy so we didnt need to do that,we even had members willing to donate that didnt even have v6's!

Come on jeremy,tell us all whats happened? you have had the full support from two clubs on this and we feel let down.

Cant say I`m suprised at this has come to nothing, we were warned.

What a shame..........

Over 30 names down and the whole club backing you....

[JMR_AW11]

Where is your progress blog then? Do you have some sort of website?

I'm afraid I don't have a progress blog or a proper website. If I did it would generate too much email/pm traffic for me to handle.


However, I do have a few files uploaded to a webpage.

eg the latest BETA version of the tuning/logging software, the latest ROMs and a brief description of how the ECU operates etc.

This is similar to the stuff I send to people who have bought an ECU.

http://www.jmrhzu.btinternet.co.uk/Rev2 ... _help4.doc

http://www.jmrhzu.btinternet.co.uk/Rev2_ECU/Installer/

http://www.jmrhzu.btinternet.co.uk/Rev2_ECU/ROM_Images/

The ROM images have a basic encryption wrapper on them so they can only upload to the 89661-17380 ECU so please don't try and make any sense of the data inside the ROM files. They have various checksums and CRC checks within them to stop people manually editing them and causing grief.

The latest ECU I sent out has access to more maps and also provides an injector scaler for easier remapping with larger injectors.

[raptor95GTS]

for what its worth jeremys done the same thing over on twobrutal,developed a v6 programmable ecu,tested it,promised us cheap units and then disappeared off the planet....we even set up a funding thread were some 25 members were willing to donate money into a pot for jeremy to get his initial prototypes off the ground.

Now the only person that stood to gain financially was jeremy so we didnt need to do that,we even had members willing to donate that didnt even have v6's!

Come on jeremy,tell us all whats happened? you have had the full support from two clubs on this and we feel let down.

Cant say I`m suprised at this has come to nothing, we were warned.

What a shame..........

Over 30 names down and the whole club backing you....

Jeremy doesn't have to do anything for you or anyone on here and certainly doesn't have to release any info for others to continue his work. It's a hobby for him not a job so if it happens great, if not go buy an aftermarket ECU and stop yer greeting. Either Link or the PFC will do nicely and have plenty of support for tuning.

[Lewis Jay]

for what its worth jeremys done the same thing over on twobrutal,developed a v6 programmable ecu,tested it,promised us cheap units and then disappeared off the planet....we even set up a funding thread were some 25 members were willing to donate money into a pot for jeremy to get his initial prototypes off the ground.

Now the only person that stood to gain financially was jeremy so we didnt need to do that,we even had members willing to donate that didnt even have v6's!

Come on jeremy,tell us all whats happened? you have had the full support from two clubs on this and we feel let down.

Cant say I`m suprised at this has come to nothing, we were warned.

What a shame..........

Over 30 names down and the whole club backing you....

Jeremy doesn't have to do anything for you or anyone on here and certainly doesn't have to release any info for others to continue his work. It's a hobby for him not a job so if it happens great, if not go buy an aftermarket ECU and stop yer greeting. Either Link or the PFC will do nicely and have plenty of support for tuning.

No your right he doesnt have to do anything.

He hasnt done anything!

He promised the world and failed to deliver in a big way!

[raptor95GTS]

dude, if you're going to continue getting all personal I suggest you calm down and walk away from the keyboard. Quite frankly, with the attitude you and others have I'm not surprised this project has gone the way of the dodo.

There is a rev2 running his chipped ECU so he has done something. Has Jeremy taken any money from you? Any one on here can promise anything they like, doesn't mean they have to deliver unless money changes hands.

[JMR_AW11]

dude, if you're going to continue getting all personal I suggest you calm down and walk away from the keyboard. Quite frankly, with the attitude you and others have I'm not surprised this project has gone the way of the dodo.

There is a rev2 running his chipped ECU so he has done something. Has Jeremy taken any money from you? Any one on here can promise anything they like, doesn't mean they have to deliver unless money changes hands.

Hi Allan.

Cheers for the support etc. Don't worry too much about the negative comments. I've been getting these from the day I started looking at Toyota ECUs.

You should see what I get via email or PM

[raptor95GTS]

happy to show support, bummer about the negative stuff you get - so er when's the rev3+ version starting

[Lewis Jay]

happy to show support, bummer about the negative stuff you get - so er when's the rev3+ version starting

Keep dreaming.

[raptor95GTS]

happy to show support, bummer about the negative stuff you get - so er when's the rev3+ version starting

Keep dreaming.

yeah I know it's not going to happen hence the smiley

[Toxygene]

never gona happen bump!

Another one for good luck. If only it would happen Telling people about something should only be done when what you have for sale to the community is almost ready, not 10 years before you can be bothered releasing it.

I've sent the developer a few pms myself and to be fair, he's a top chap and has replied in detail several times, but i'm just so so confused as to why he isn't getting this out there, making good cash and helping out us owners.

Haven't you directed that pointed question at him? I'm thinking he either is worried about liability and doesn't want to sell until he gets the kinks worked out or he is one of those chaps that believes that unless you can reproduce the same work you don't deserve to own it.

If it's the latter, I'd wish he gave a step by step on how to duplicate his work on our own the way many hackers write up their work about software.

Give me a direction and I'll have at with my soldering iron and a screwdriver to make that thing do what his can!

[Fourplay]

I'd wish he gave a step by step on how to duplicate his work on our own the way many hackers write up their work about software.

That's precisely what he would have to do because the bulk of the difficult and time consuming work would have been purely software related, decrypting/interpreting and testing the original Toyota code, then creating a new environment for tuning the modified unit.

The 'mechanical' aspects, soldering iron and screwdriver as you put it, would be the *relatively* easy part.

If these can be purchased I'd sure like to know from where.

I think it's highly inappropriate for people to have become aggressive or pushy due to lack of availability.

Disappointment is understandable but overreactions are not.

All the best Jeremy, as it's been a fascinating read at the very least

[djpkins]

second that m8...top man

[spowy]

Take it this has died a death pity was looking forward to buying one.

Chris

[bobhatton]

Have you made contact and tried to buy one?

Bob

[spowy]

Have you made contact and tried to buy one?

Bob

Hi Bob,

Have tried many times to contact jeremy to buy one but there was never any forsale.