Porsche Boxster drivers - bigger knobs than Beemer drivers?

[Lauren]

Its more a case of rich people mostly being dumb and thinking if they buy a porsche that they can whup 'old bangers' like mr2s. But what they dont realise is the japland turbo will whup some ass

Totally disagree. Maybe, just maybe the guy wanted to overtake and couldn't give a toss what he was overtaking.

When i overtake people i don't really care what they are driving. I'm not in a race, nor am i interested in being in one, if i'm looking to overtake someone its because they are holding me up.

[Amelio]

Mattcambs - no need to apologise, whats wrong with taking a battering anyway...opinions are opinions.

Ian Geary - nice summary, kinda what i was getting at but couldnt be bothered to search for alternative threads.

Yeah, i'm proud of my 8 years ncb too.

End of convo from me.

[mr2nut123]

Its more a case of rich people mostly being dumb and thinking if they buy a porsche that they can whup 'old bangers' like mr2s. But what they dont realise is the japland turbo will whup some ass

I wouldn't care if you beat my M3 in your tubby. At the end of the day I'll be parking a M3 into my garage, you will be parking your Toyota on the street.

Touched a nerve? Lets pay tons of money for performance (because face it...thats what you buy it for) none of this "yeah but mines a prestige and expensive"....who cares? Just sore losers. If they arent bought for showing up cars on the road why do 99% of them go for it when they see a tubby in the rear view?

[dervbas]

So do I Lauren, but out of the cars I was considering, the E36 (great cars that they are) are the one that, imo has lost it's premium status the most. Real shame.

dervbas wrote:
I agree with the author and quite happily Porsche bash on the Boxters... as in a previous post where I got slated (surprisingly!) I agree and think buyers of the Boxter are people who can't afford a proper Porsche like a 911 turbo so opt for the poor-man's (relatively) model. Good thread Amelio. =D>


The trouble is a boxster is a real porsche. Spending 30K+ on a car hardly qualifies you as poor!

Exactly! Plus they are fantastic cars too.

The whole Porsche/BMW/whoever bashing thing is mainly just poor man versus rich man jealousy. The same people that bash expensive car drivers are the ones that if they had the expensive car themselves would look down on drivers of "inferior" sports cars.

If I had the money I wouldn't buy a Boxster, I would buy something with a better image and performance or if I had enough money I would buy a worthy Porsche such as 911 turbo or such alike. That is the point I'm trying to make.

[Lauren]

If I had the money I wouldn't buy a Boxster, I would buy something with a better image and performance or if I had enough money I would buy a worthy Porsche such as 911 turbo or such alike. That is the point I'm trying to make.

I think your point is flawed.

The thing is the boxster is an excellent car. I don't see it suffering from an image problem. People who know about cars know this.

[^Trickster^]

I have had a few people try to do this to me, put their foot down while your overtaking.... I just drop a gear and put my foot down and accelerate away as fast, as sideways and as dangerously as possible. It p1$$e$ them off, and I smile, and I dont care what anyone else thinks

Graeme

[Lauren]

I have had a few people try to do this to me, put their foot down while your overtaking.... I just drop a gear and put my foot down and accelerate away as fast, as sideways and as dangerously as possible. It p1$$e$ them off, and I smile, and I dont care what anyone else thinks

Graeme

Well thats great if you have five million horsepower and i admit even with a lowly 200bhp i have yet to be caught out by such idiocy, but its still pointless and annoying nonetheless.

[^Trickster^]

I am always watching my mirrors, had a goon try to put his foot down on a dual carriageway while i was overtaking him in his "scooby" that was comical.

500hp does the trick nicely ive found.

Graeme

[Lauren]

I tend to make sure i'm on the power as early as i can be just in case said despot goes and floors it.

remember i had some xxxx try and floor it as i was overtaking them (can't remember what it was but was something fairly quick). I was driving jonny's honda engined elise (350bhp/tonne)... I thought to myself you've got no chance and i was right, it was almost comical the look i got.

But i really wish people would think about the problems they cause by doing this. If i ever have someone trying to get past me i make it as easy as possible for them to do so. I'd rather have them where i can see them.

[^Trickster^]

Yeh its definitly a dangerous thing to do, ive had some really dangerous people trying to race with me. I will not tailgate or perform any dangerous overtakes, id rather let them win.

I raced a subaru once, i was with my gf as I normally am and he had his chav mates in, i totally wiped the floor with him on the dual carriageway before joining the motorway, then there was traffic, so i left space infront of me in the fast lane and slowed down, he went hurtling past at 100+ down the hard shoulder past the wagon that i was waiting to pass with the other traffic.

Worst thing is, these people nearly always kill someone else rather than themselves, nothing wrong with having some fun but id rather live to talk about it.

Graeme

[Gordy]

I'd rather have them where i can see them.

Yup, that works for me too. I let them past and give them a bit of room ahead and then use their brake lights as an early warning system for cameras, speed / radar vans, etc.


Mind you sometimes (just sometimes) towards the end of a journey I have been known to drive close behind them for a few hundred yards to to intimidate a touch and indicate their lack of ability to drive away from me, just to neutralise, invalidate and deflate their ego. Then turn off and forget about them.

(Other times I'm very sensible. Honestly Mum.)

[Red Devil]

I don't think the Tubby owners get into such scrapes!!!

You got it! We don't need to.......

If they arent bought for showing up cars on the road why do 99% of them go for it when they see a tubby in the rear view?

Ah ha! Assuming they recognise what they've just seen, they think it's an N/A
And then they're surprised when we're still there. And when the positions are reversed.
I have to say that where I live, most Porsche pilots know how to drive properly.
BMWs are another matter. There seems to be a particular mindset amongst a significant proportion of them. I've lost count of the number who think that nobody else is allowed in the outside lane of motorways/dual carriageways. Or that being overtaken is a hanging offence....

[Lauren]

BMWs are another matter. There seems to be a particular mindset amongst a significant proportion of them. I've lost count of the number who think that nobody else is allowed in the outside lane of motorways/dual carriageways. Or that being overtaken is a hanging offence....

The outside lane is the BMW lane. If you want to use it you need to buy a BMW. I really wish more people would be made aware of this as i find it incredibly frustrating when non-BMWs come into the lane. Maybe BMW lane cameras would be the way forward.

Also BMWs are not allowed to be overtaken, people have hung for less.

I just can't believe other (non-BMW) drivers can't grasp what are two very simple facts.

[Si_Crewe]

So, I was watching a programme about motorbikes on TV and a cop was explaing to some soccer-mom about letting bikes past on country roads.
The woman looks at the cop in disbelief and says "If I'm obeying the rules of the road and driving sensibly, why should I go out of my way to let a motorbike past?"
"Courtesy." replies the copper.

Courtesy is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

If you're planning on pootling about in your MR2 and some test-pilot in a Boxter hares up behind you... so what?
What makes you feel like you've got to give chase or give him a hard time?
As a fellow sports-car owner, wouldn't it be more courteous to pull over to the left and give him a wave through as soon as the road is clear?

Geez people, We all hate Porsches and BMWs. Mk1 and Mk2 owners hate each other. Tubby owners sneer at NA owners. Hell, people are even partisan about the bloody colour of their MR2.

Seriously, I know it's not that bad but I'm sure we've all had times when we've been "making progress in a brisk manner" and WE've been hacked off cos some nobber seems determined to hold us up. Why act like one of them?

Surely it's better to either let him past with a nod or, alternatively, if he is acting like a nob, let him go and have his accident by himself?

Courtesy.

[Lauren]

If you're planning on pootling about in your MR2 and some test-pilot in a Boxter hares up behind you... so what?
What makes you feel like you've got to give chase or give him a hard time?
As a fellow sports-car owner, wouldn't it be more courteous to pull over to the left and give him a wave through as soon as the road is clear?

Geez people, We all hate Porsches and BMWs. Mk1 and Mk2 owners hate each other. Tubby owners sneer at NA owners. Hell, people are even partisan about the bloody colour of their MR2.

Seriously, I know it's not that bad but I'm sure we've all had times when we've been "making progress in a brisk manner" and WE've been hacked off cos some nobber seems determined to hold us up. Why act like one of them?

Surely it's better to either let him past with a nod or, alternatively, if he is acting like a nob, let him go and have his accident by himself?

Courtesy.

Totally agree with you on most points. I must admit i don't hate any owner of a given make of car. I digress, but seriously i've lost count of the number of times i'm going from A to B, I have no interest in racing any duffer on the road, if i catch them up then they are holding me up (in the words of Jonny "I haven't been dropped behind them by god"). If i'm in a hurry and traffic is light (ie its worth overtaking) then nothing is more annoying than said duffer doing their best to hold you up and outmanouver you at the next traffic lights, purely because you have overtaken them.

I never even look at another driver when i overtake them, i'm just not interested. To be fair 99% of the time they fall behind after the first corner, but i won't just put my foot down for the sake of it because it only encourages them.

What i don't understand is why said idiot thinks that its some kind of personal vendetta about the size of their willy or an onlsaught on their ego, when the reality is i couldn't give a toss, i just want to make good time.

[Tiamat]

Geez people, We all hate Porsches and BMWs. Mk1 and Mk2 owners hate each other. Tubby owners sneer at NA owners. Hell, people are even partisan about the bloody colour of their MR2.

Courtesy.

That must mean I hate myself then.

As you say, courtesy is missing from the roads nowadays. I do not care who overtakes me or their reasons for doing it. If I am in the mood for a play I will do - but I will pick my time and place to make sure I'm not in a built up area or going to put myself at risk.

If someone is overtaking me, well that's their business to get past me and I won't interfere. Though I have lost count of the number of idiots who follow me at the speed limit through a 30 zone, then try and overtake the moment we hit the 60 zone and then object when I out accelerate them or they cannot get past because we end up accelerating at the same pace.

I'll not deliberately block anyone or try and stop them overtaking, but I am sure as hell not going to stop accelerating because they are getting imaptient at me doing the speed limit. I am also sure as hell not going to wait until they finished overtaking before accelerating.

At the end of the day I will not deliberately interfere with someone overtakign me, but if someone wants to overtake me that is their business and they need to be sure they can do the manouver safely (though I will be aware of whats going on in case I have to assist by braking to allow them in - for safety reasons)

[mattcambs]

Tiamat: the voice of reason =D>

well said

[Red Devil]

The outside lane is the BMW lane. If you want to use it you need to buy a BMW. I really wish more people would be made aware of this as i find it incredibly frustrating when non-BMWs come into the lane. Maybe BMW lane cameras would be the way forward.

Also BMWs are not allowed to be overtaken, people have hung for less.

I just can't believe other (non-BMW) drivers can't grasp what are two very simple facts.

Well blow me down with a feather!
This is not stated anywhere in my daughter's copy of the Highway Code!
I think she's been ripped off with a dodgy copy.
I'm going to demand a refund.

[luthor1]

I think I read the first post differently to anyone else. If I am going through a 30 at 35 and I'm coming up to a 60 and a car is up my a$$, as soon as it goes to 60 I will put my foot down. If he happens to be trying to overtake he must KNOW that coming into a 60 I am going to gun it, so he's taking 100% responsibility for his manoevre.

On a 40mph road if I am doing 35 and someone overtakes and I gun it to 55 then yes, the "complainers" are right. However, the poster is going from 30 to 60 and gunning it when the speed derestricts.

The Boxster driver know this is likely and therefore has to assume responsibility.

I mean what's the Boxsters point of view "The road went from 30mph to 60 and the git accellerated! What an a$$hole, he should have waiting at 35mph until I got past him".

Poster is correct, the 'fluffers' are just pouncing on another opportunity to take the PC morale high ground and score some esteem-points.

35 on the speedo in a 30 is perfectly acceptable by the way.

[Amelio]

It was end of convo from me on this subject but i'm loving the "fluffers"
remark - thats a beauty.