Tim Bill and IMOC-UK

[michael]

Ever noticed how as soon as Tim "leaves" another mouthpiece always appears?

Would you have refunded members for membership? Would you have refunded traders? Or would the 'owner' cut and run with the money?

IMOC still exists in other places away from this forum, I'm sure existing traders and members would have been more than welcome on the more established, yet silent, Yahoo!Groups lists.

[System-G]

[Icsunonove]

bu88er off G!

Go and fix your car before J gets home!

[ryan]

Knives certainly are out (again).
Whats done is done, and Tim will have to live with the consequences of his actions.
I see this contsant 'witchhunt' as completely sad and uneccessary, come on people haven't we got better things to be doing with our time instead of dragging up all this again? Its like we're all re-living this sad affair, and enjoying it

[tonigmr2]

Well it seems to me that not one single trader or affiliate on this site has said anything to support this course of action taken by one individual and his 'company', which could have provided a 'get out' for them in the future too.

Indeed, I applaud their restraint and professionalism over not sticking the knife in when they probably had good cause, all of them.
T

[RichLee]

Ever noticed how as soon as Tim "leaves" another mouthpiece always appears?

[CosmosblueMR2]

Has the legal stuff / wording been changed then for Affiliates so this cannot happen again ?

Do Affilates have to re-join or accept these in someway if they have been changed in order to cover the club's ar5e / close the loophole ?

serious Q.

[Speedy]

Has the legal stuff / wording been changed then for Affiliates so this cannot happen again ?

Do Affilates have to re-join or accept these in someway if they have been changed in order to cover the club's ar5e / close the loophole ?

serious Q.

You will notice that the forum rules have been adjusted recently. Once everything is sorted out then we will be having a serious discussion with the affiliates.

[CosmosblueMR2]

[You will notice that the forum rules have been adjusted recently. .

been wondering about that... if rules are just updated - surely you need people to accept them / agree to abide or subsequently not gain access.. otherwise 'offenses' that are committed at one time could be legal until the new rules come out... how would that be viewed if things got messy again ?

I know what I'm trying to say - it's just not coming out very well

[Speedy]

Yes, I know what you mean, and yes at some point everybody will have to say that they accept the amended rules. There is some web-bearding going on to make this happen.

[markiii]

Ask Tim about the threat. We have chosen not to reveal the nature of what Tim said to the committee at the moment. As Malcolm has said prior, we have chosen not to reveal it at the moment because we would prefer not to, unless Tim is happy with us doing that, which up to this moment he has not been.

Anything posted up on the forum anyway can be altered in some way and nobody could prove it in either case if you can see where im coming from.

The way I still see it is that it should have been left for discussion between the people involved off the forum and not left open for discussion on the public forum.

Certain members now seem to hold a personal grudge against Tim, the Committee let him come back as a regular member because you obviously came to an agreement that you could all live with and are happy with.

All of this hate from members is all coming from the ludicrous thought that the club was going to be shut down.

You have to ask yourselves if that is the main goal of man who's trying to setup his own business and wishes to gain the trust of other members like he has done for many years? Closing the club would cripple his business and destroy everything he has built up with no hope of return! If you know Tim you will know that his business it pretty much his life and its the LAST thing he would ever want.

had he sued for damages, that would have been teh result, who are you to say he wouldn't have gone through with it?

[dude541]

Ask Tim about the threat. We have chosen not to reveal the nature of what Tim said to the committee at the moment. As Malcolm has said prior, we have chosen not to reveal it at the moment because we would prefer not to, unless Tim is happy with us doing that, which up to this moment he has not been.

Anything posted up on the forum anyway can be altered in some way and nobody could prove it in either case if you can see where im coming from.

The way I still see it is that it should have been left for discussion between the people involved off the forum and not left open for discussion on the public forum.

Certain members now seem to hold a personal grudge against Tim, the Committee let him come back as a regular member because you obviously came to an agreement that you could all live with and are happy with.

All of this hate from members is all coming from the ludicrous thought that the club was going to be shut down.

You have to ask yourselves if that is the main goal of man who's trying to setup his own business and wishes to gain the trust of other members like he has done for many years? Closing the club would cripple his business and destroy everything he has built up with no hope of return! If you know Tim you will know that his business it pretty much his life and its the LAST thing he would ever want.

had he sued for damages, that would have been teh result, who are you to say he wouldn't have gone through with it?

who are you to say he would have?

ive been a good mate of tims for a few years now,and yeh he has conducted himself badly on several ocassions!
but no way would he have pushed whatever it was to close this club!
to me it seems like he picked a loophole in the rules so he could rejoin again,certain people didnt like it! hence this witchunt thread!
personally i think he should have walked away......but mr2s are his life!
and he knows a damn lot about them!
regardless of what happened,him not being here is a big loss,but rules are rules,i dont disagree with the ban,but this thread after when he picked the loophole is pathetic!
i think he has realised its time to go,but i doubt this will affect his business in any way at all,very clued up guy,and a lot of people know that.
just my 2p

[anna]

who are you to say he would have?

Ah - it's ok when you get threatened with legal action then - cos nobody ever follows through with it?

to me it seems like he picked a loophole in the rules so he could rejoin again,certain people didnt like it! hence this witchunt thread!

It would be a very naive person to think that forcing your way back on to a club after being banned would go unnoticed. So what were the committee supposed to do? hush it up? or try and be as open and honest with the membership as possible?

There is no witchhunt, there is no 'vendetta'. Just a hell of a lot of dissolutioned members, and committee members who are at a complete loss of how to explain Tim's actions, and that puts them in an awkward position.

Tim has behaved like a grade A <edited>. If anyone has a vendetta, it's Tim against other affiliates that he's consistently had problems with in the past. He does not feel the need to say sorry to them because of other issues he has with them, which is fine, but not a grown up way to behave.
I have no issue with Tim, except that he should apologise for his behaviour (towards other affiliates for the warnings he got), and stop claiming to be things that aren't true. end of.

[dude541]

It would be a very naive person to think that forcing your way back on to a club after being banned would go unnoticed. So what were the committee supposed to do? hush it up? or try and be as open and honest with the membership as possible?

i thought the commitee agreed that he could return as a regular member?
or did you only do it because you thought there would be legal proceedings? so when you realised there wouldnt be this thread appears?

Tim has behaved like a grade A dick. If anyone has a vendetta, it's Tim against other affiliates that he's consistently had problems with in the past. He does not feel the need to say sorry to them because of other issues he has with them, which is fine, but not a grown up way to behave.

there are 2 sides to every story,and you have only seen 1 of it!
and seeing as your calling him a `dick` are you sure you dont have any issues with him???

[anna]

It would be a very naive person to think that forcing your way back on to a club after being banned would go unnoticed. So what were the committee supposed to do? hush it up? or try and be as open and honest with the membership as possible?

i thought the commitee agreed that he could return as a regular member?
or did you only do it because you thought there would be legal proceedings? so when you realised there wouldnt be this thread appears?

The committee were not happy to let Tim back on. The only reason he is back on was because he threatened legal action, and continues to hold it above the committees head - he has repeated to the committee whilst saying that he'd never take action in this thread, that he reserves the right to follow legal action if he so chooses (or at least this was the case when i left).

As for Tim being a dick, that is ofcourse just my perception of it. Until he acts like an adult, i'll stick with the 'dick' tag if that's ok with you.

[markiii]

Anything posted up on the forum anyway can be altered in some way and nobody could prove it in either case if you can see where im coming from.

The way I still see it is that it should have been left for discussion between the people involved off the forum and not left open for discussion on the public forum.

Certain members now seem to hold a personal grudge against Tim, the Committee let him come back as a regular member because you obviously came to an agreement that you could all live with and are happy with.

All of this hate from members is all coming from the ludicrous thought that the club was going to be shut down.

You have to ask yourselves if that is the main goal of man who's trying to setup his own business and wishes to gain the trust of other members like he has done for many years? Closing the club would cripple his business and destroy everything he has built up with no hope of return! If you know Tim you will know that his business it pretty much his life and its the LAST thing he would ever want.

had he sued for damages, that would have been teh result, who are you to say he wouldn't have gone through with it?

who are you to say he would have?

ive been a good mate of tims for a few years now,and yeh he has conducted himself badly on several ocassions!
but no way would he have pushed whatever it was to close this club!
to me it seems like he picked a loophole in the rules so he could rejoin again,certain people didnt like it! hence this witchunt thread!
personally i think he should have walked away......but mr2s are his life!
and he knows a damn lot about them!
regardless of what happened,him not being here is a big loss,but rules are rules,i dont disagree with the ban,but this thread after when he picked the loophole is pathetic!
i think he has realised its time to go,but i doubt this will affect his business in any way at all,very clued up guy,and a lot of people know that.
just my 2p

no one thast the point I was making

[dude541]

The committee were not happy to let Tim back on. The only reason he is back on was because he threatened legal action, and continues to hold it above the committees head - he has repeated to the committee whilst saying that he'd never take action in this thread, that he reserves the right to follow legal action if he so chooses (or at least this was the case when i left).

ok,thanks,that clears a few things up

As for Tim being a <edit>, that is ofcourse just my perception of it. Until he acts like an adult, i'll stick with the '<edit>' tag if that's ok with you.

fine by me,but im sure if that was him calling you a similar name it wouldnt be long before it got removed!

[anna]

As for Tim being a <edit>, that is ofcourse just my perception of it. Until he acts like an adult, i'll stick with the '<edit>' tag if that's ok with you.

fine by me,but im sure if that was him calling you a similar name it wouldnt be long before it got removed!

Well, that would be because i'd report it.
HTH

Although ofcourse I did initially say he'd behaved like a <edit> rather than he was one.

[Quigonjay]

fine by me,but im sure if that was him calling you a similar name it wouldnt be long before it got removed!

no, alex would just give her a spanking

[dude541]

As for Tim being a <edit>, that is ofcourse just my perception of it. Until he acts like an adult, i'll stick with the '<edit>' tag if that's ok with you.

fine by me,but im sure if that was him calling you a similar name it wouldnt be long before it got removed!

Well, that would be because i'd report it.
HTH

Although ofcourse I did initially say he'd behaved like a dick rather than he was one.

looks like hes not the only one acting like a `<edit>`
or are ex mods allowed to do that??
wonder how long it will be before this gets removed?