[All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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Citroen Saxo VTS (*135bhp)
YEAR 02
POWER FLY 135
WEIGHT 935
BHP/TON 146.70
0-60 7.34
0-100 20.46
60-100 13.12
1/4 MILE 15.81 @ 87.90

Toyota MR2 Mk2 Turbo 94 import
YEAR 94
BHP FLY 245
WEIGHT 1260
BHP/TON 197.57
0-60 5.56
0-100 13.91
60-100 8.36
1/4 13.91 @ 99.99

no lets put this to bed :thumleft:
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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Renault Clio Sport 172 mk2
YEAR 02
BHP FLY 170
WEIGHT 1110
POWER/WEIGHT 155.61
0-60 6.96
0-100 18.52
60-100 11.57
1/4 MILE 15.39 @ 91.14
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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Righto, me going home now so not monitoring this for moderation purposes. Please do not personally attack this person, educate him :thumleft:
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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LOL. My first ever 2 drag races at santa pod were agains 2 different Clios. Both were the mid engined wide arch versions and I left them for dead. This was when I was running a lot less power too. I think your mates tubby has a problem
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by 3sgte »

Oh i would so love to meet you on the road :mrgreen:

FWD 172 ""claimed"" bhp ( i have seen several clio172's fail to make 160 on the rollers)
against
RWD 220-240bhp bearing in mind most rev3's make more than 240 :thumleft:and the added advantage of mid-rear traction

no contest .
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by RyanRs »

the only way you would have kicked the pants of ur mates 'Tubby' is if he has no idea of clutch control and sat there spinning up the wheels while trying to accelerate.

I know the saying 'MR2 -Poor mans ferrari' isnt one of my prefered phrases towards my car, but tbh the phrase is there for a reason.. Its cheap(compared to a ferrari) and just as fast as one!!

i dont see any clios being compared to ferraris ; or any other supercars in that respect!

Think there is 1 way to resolve this . Come to santa pod!!
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by Munnsy »

Place your bets Place your bets :lol: :lol:

Clio 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to 1
MR2 ( well lets be honest is there any point)

dont get me wrong the clio is indeed a nice car for its own reasons, but come on the 2 is a proper SPORTS CAR.

I like the 172s but surely something was wrong with the 2, ( was he facing the same way as you, or was he by any chance in reverse??)

Sorry not normally abusive just really silly thread, mr2 hands down in a straight line,
lets throw round a track into the equation, they do handle very well for what they are in his defence :pale:
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by fearless »

simple c reedit dont buy one if its put you off dont bother get back on your renault forum and talk 172's to people who care, i only have an n/a but love the way it handles and is really pokey like everyone has said your mates must be bu88ered, want to have some fun go on you tube and put in mr2 and see some fast cars get done by tubbys a lambo, skyline, 911, lots on there enjoy [-( [-(
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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Let me introduce you to the dark side... :twisted:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBlGqM3Q ... ed&search=

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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by craig »

PMSL @ Clio 172 beating an MR2 turbo.

A clio would be:

Breakfast
Lunch
Evening meal.

No contest!
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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C Reedit wrote:
This as you can imagine has put me off the slow japanese tractors! How can you guys rave on about them so much?


If the MR2 Turbo is a tractor... then im afraid the clio is no more than a lawnmower. (a french one which makes it all the more better)

steve b wrote:
His must have been broken.

I don't have an MR2T anymore but you wouldn't know which way a decent running MR2T went in the shopping box. 172bhp thats for children.


Personally you cant even consider anything with less than 200bhp/ton serious childs play

RedMR² wrote:PMSL @ Clio 172 beating an MR2 turbo.

A clio would be:

Breakfast
Lunch
Evening meal.

No contest!


Come on fella :D Get real!!

Its not even a snack! :D :D :whistle:

P.S I think the EK9 was the hottest most hardcore hatch ever :D
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by craig »

ok then mate lol.

Point I was tryin to get across was it would be beaten everytime! :thumleft: :lol:
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by SW20Paul »

No way a clio 172 is faster than a tubby thats just stupid to think so.

Must be a wind up, :roll:

There's a guy lives near me with a V6 clio and thats no match for my REV3 so a 172 would be a walk in the park.

Oh and the greatest Hot hatch is a Lancia delta S4 or maybe 205 T16.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by EVilDAve³ »

They're supercars. The Lancia Delta Integrale was the best hot hatch ever...the 172 was the badly built underpowered unreliable heap of toss that lead to the not-much-better 182, and the only good thing THAT overrated heap of rubbish ever did was spawn the Trophy (which actually is pretty good).

Even my old knacker of a honda prelude destroys 'sport' clios....the thread starters Clio either has a hyperspace engine or his mates MR2 is broken.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by refo »

C Reedit wrote:Honestly it was a turbo, i could hear it dumping through my open window when i went passed it! He has had it rolling roaded at 228bhp at the wheels.

Trust me these clios are top banana, the best hot hatch ever made!


well it must be a sick tubby or your friend cant drive. or both.

yep them clios are top banana and the best luke warm hatch ever made.
the nissan pulsar gtir is the best HOT hatch ever made :roll:

all joking aside. if he does have a tubby and he was putting his foot down and we are sure he didnt make any driving mistakes, then i think your mate needs to get his car checked out as its not performing as it should.
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

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C Reedit: I actually like the Clio 172/Sports etc, I'd never own one as its a french piece of junk, but it is a nice bit of kit...

Your friend's Mr2 Turbo (?) is down on power if you beat him, simple as that.

My Fiat Uno is quicker than a 172, I tell no lies.

Ps, do you by chance know King Stromba ?

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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by Ian Geary »

My old uni flat mate has a Clio Sport 182.

We've not "raced" (don't like the thought of 2 powerful cars driving within inches of each other seeing who can do the stupidest overtake) but we have driven each others cars around a bit to see what they're up to.

He was quite taken back by the punch delivered by a decent high pressure turbo from fairly low in the rev range. It's far more than the build up you get from taking a clio right up to the red line, although you shouldn't mistake the clio for being slow in absolute terms. It does get rapidly to illegal speeds.

Just not as rapidly as the tubby, so in a straight line situation I'd have it beat every single time until my clutch foot fell off.

However, in terms of handling, this clio was planted. It was far more confident negotiating bends than my 2.

When I say it was confident - I don't mean the car of course - they don't have feelings apparently.

I mean as I driver I was more confident about pushing it, and so was he. My MR2 has koni shocks, oe springs, standard 15s with T1Rs (boo hiss) with a fair amount of tread left, but there's no way i'd go into a fairly tight bend at more than 50 in the dry - far less in the wet.

The clio is extremely chuckable, and just eats these corners up. This could well have lead to the situation we're hearing about.

Also,

don't forget we don't have any details of this race whatsoever. It was hardly a measured 1/4 mile sprint.

I'm imagining this chap has a fairly stress free job in a warehouse somewhere (apologies any warehouse operatives), so the lunchtime sprint was probably around the industrial estate - perhaps to the burger van and back?

Given these will only have roads of a few hundred yards, there would be very little opportunity to regain ground should a mistake be made, notwithstanding the driving skills of the clio owner at recovering from his inevitable wheelspin.

In addition, a speck in the mirror probably means about 3 foot behind - we've all done the odd bit of exaggerating in our time.

On the flip side, to blame a broken tubby does sound somewhat lame. The guy has witnessed this himself first hand (unless he's just wasting our time - a risk I'm willing to take), and no amount of disgruntled noises are going to make someone disregrd it.

I've snuck in front of a 350z and a Caymen S before now - do you think I'm ever going to let an owner forget this if I meet them? No chance, despite them being one off, even freak occurances.

Would I then log on to their forums and say "I'm not buying a Caymen S because my MR2 made it look like a tractor"? - er, no.

Bottom line, this chap has made his own mind up.

If he doesn't want to join the MR2 commuity, I'm not going to loose too much sleep. ;)

have a nice evening

Ian
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by Munnsy »

wow Im truly moved Ian :thumleft: :lol: :lol:
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by Rev2_mike »

Hahahaaaaaa hahahahaaaaa Good joke buddy, im wiping away the tears. No seriously its a drag monster is a 172 :clown: Im sure they're great cars and tbh i'd have one as a town car or at least have a look into the possibility as people do seem to rave about them - and not all of them wear baseball caps :whistle:
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Re: [All] [Generic] MR2 Turbo vs Clio 172

Post by GeoffC320 »

Just to add my 2 penneth...had a run-in with one of those about a year ago. Me: 2-up, him: 3-up Both floored it away from the lights, both *definitely* trying. Had a nose in front, up to 80-ish or so for when we both had to slow down and turn off in seperate directions.


Almost forgot...this was just after I'd sold my '2 and got a Merc SLK 230 auto (193bhp/1470kg)....lovely car but WAAAY slower than the turbo, even when it was still standard.

Dreamer. :roll:
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