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.. remember ALL Nismo do are make cars go faster. I'd wager that they are better at it than Porsche who have to spend a greater % on marketing and car design etc.
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A GT3RS or a Nismo Z tune, what would i have? No contest./not that i'll ever be able to afford one.- Circuit Pack 
.. it was one of my highlights being overtaken by it. Bibbs wrote:Comparing the Z Tune is the same as seeing what Gemballa or Ruf do to the 911.
RT12 anyone? 225mph and 650hp.
And one went past me at Nur last year
You are comparing a non-production modified car to a production car. Modifying is a mugs game to a large extent. It can be fun though./been there got the t-shirt.- Circuit Pack (Having just spent £4k on a blower for his S2000) I agree home-brew can be, how can I put this, fragile? But outfits like these can produce a 100% balanced vehicle which removes the compromise the factory built in and focus's the car in the direction the customer wants.(quite naturally) are very happy to make money-for-money comparisons. If you have an 80k GT3 then you can spend 40k on your evo FQ400 and still compare them.- to compare what you can buy, with, well, what you can buy... A Nismo GTR is made specifically to do exactly what the GT3RS is designed to do isn't it? They're both cars. You can compare an F1 car to a Nissan Micra. (F1 car is fast, Micra is good for shopping trips). That comparison is fair, and shows the plus points with both vehicles. Probably one of the worst "road" cars Porsche currently produce. Nismo Z tune is a spectacular example of Jap-Tec. ? I bet they're really closely matched when timed round the nurburgring.... just re-read the title - this is about the GT2 not the GT3RS. It's gone waaaaay off topic now ! splashnatz wrote:
GT3RS is a stripped-out track orientated car.
Yes its got a cage and bucket seats. Its when it goes onto the track though it just feels so much the race car. - Circuit Pack - that Supra was incredible but that Skyline actually had me laughing out loud! That is insane! The guy was soiling himself! (I would) - where do you go from there?!?.. James Junior wrote:OMFG that is ridiculous
A car that is too fast for a racetrack
Equally my girlfriend sitting next to me now thinks I am a bigger geek than she did already.
They can however be fully exploited at the bigger circuits, not a problem.- Circuit Pack 
skinthespin wrote:Agree with Lauren in that if I had 80k to spend on a car i'd have a GT3RS over ANY modified Jap car, to say the performance is in a different league though is just daft, dont eh 911 and Skyline lap the Ring in similar times? Certaily both just under 8 minutes, so they are both very quick and both very capable and on the same planet performance wise, if all your measureing is raw speed.
The Jap cars will always be more compromised because of what they start out in life as, economy shopping cars usually, or overweight GT's that need 500bhp to get them going well, and I would say Porsche has more expertise than pretty much any car company when it comes to making cars go fast, just look at there racing history, on top of that they have been developing the 911 for 40 years, so you would expect it to be good.
Is a 911 better than a modified jap car? For me yes, for a lot of you no, for me its more than pure speed, its breeding and its finesse, neither of which jap cars have.
- Circuit Pack But its really down to opinion and what the driver actually wants. (Agree with me Lauren) just do it!! If not that then id spend it on the M15 which is a better spec than the 400 yet only around 70k. It sounds like just a high end spec of their range like a BMW M3 GTR or a AMG sportscar. Looking at the times and power of the Noble and the Z Nismo Skyline are far more progressive than the spec of a GT3RS and GT2...they can come production just like the GT3RS. ... who can compete with that? Its about driver involvement and that feeling you get when you are in the zone and revelling in the handling of the car as you constantly push it over the limit again and again.... For me its so much more than just figures and laptimes. There is nothing bland about a GT3RS, no way... As the tachometer climbed to the 8500rpm redline the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. The last time they did that was when i had a ride in a Miura SV... so i knew that this car was very special. Thats the point. It totally re-arranged mine and i've been in a few/driven a few cars.- Circuit Pack Antstarr wrote:
The GTR has won tonnes of championships in its time since the R32 and in the JGTC and has been banned from some racing cups because it was TOO GOOD! There is a reason for why its so big and yet makes such a statement.
Look at the E36 BTTC who had to run weight penalties because they were dominating the championship, largely due to being RWD as opposed to the FWD competition.- Circuit Pack (I know nothing about wines) matured over many years with an ecsquisite taste that only the expert can appreciate and some £2.99 slop from Tesco that tastes the same to the layman but at the end of the day they both get you pi**ed. skinthespin wrote:
I think Lauren may have suggested in hypnotised Richard Hammond fasion the 911 is the quickest thing ever which of course it isnt, but raw speed is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to appeal of certain cars, alot of people cant get there head around that.
. as an experience as a usable track car (ie not something stupid that breaks every 3 minutes) and as a road car, the GT3RS perhaps presents the pinnacle of this. How I define that is very much based around the many other facets (of which speed is just one) that make up such a car.- Circuit Pack quigonjay wrote:
was looking forward to watching that but the wonky camera made me dizzy after about 10 secs
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