Distinctive Cars Jap Import Specialists

[senie]

I went through a set of brand new pirelli F1's in 4 hours on a trackday... you are talking about 3 months in a RWD turbo car ? do you honestly expect the tyres to last very long ? I swap mine on the mr2 at least every 4-5 months (with changing front and rear half way through for even wear)

I assume you mean goodyear F1's? They dont stand up to track use very well, maybe you should use something like an S03 or even better a track tyre thats made to run at those temps like the R888, V70a or some Advans.

How are you managing to swap the front and rear tyres on an MR2 they are different sizes?

oh. i thought F1 were good for track use? Never mind i only get onto the track about once or twice a year anyway (and i still havent got my 2)

[jonno]

I went through a set of brand new pirelli F1's in 4 hours on a trackday... you are talking about 3 months in a RWD turbo car ? do you honestly expect the tyres to last very long ? I swap mine on the mr2 at least every 4-5 months (with changing front and rear half way through for even wear)

I assume you mean goodyear F1's? They dont stand up to track use very well, maybe you should use something like an S03 or even better a track tyre thats made to run at those temps like the R888, V70a or some Advans.

How are you managing to swap the front and rear tyres on an MR2 they are different sizes?

oh. i thought F1 were good for track use? Never mind i only get onto the track about once or twice a year anyway (and i still havent got my 2)

They are good in the wet but once they get hot the shoulders start to break up.

[Ms Croft]

I find it quite interesting too.
PeterK, please post more details about yourself, like the sound of the yellow MR2 and skyline for starters.
T

Pete is a mate of mine from CMR aka www.cliftonmoorracing.co.uk if you wish to see his R32 GTR skyline, and his MR2 turbo then simply go to the gallery in CMR there is also a modification list aswell i think

[senie]

I find it quite interesting too.
PeterK, please post more details about yourself, like the sound of the yellow MR2 and skyline for starters.
T

Pete is a mate of mine from CMR aka www.cliftonmoorracing.co.uk if you wish to see his R32 GTR skyline, and his MR2 turbo then simply go to the gallery in CMR there is also a modification list aswell i think

Nice specs on skyline. vey nice. couldnt find the 2 though. might just be me being blind.
You might want to advise him not to switch the front and the rears on the two. Personal experiance (and i think a general view) is that the rears need to be wider than the front which will make it difficult to swap them over.

(p.s we need more pics in the other thread)

[jimGTS]

I find it quite interesting too.
PeterK, please post more details about yourself, like the sound of the yellow MR2 and skyline for starters.
T

Pete is a mate of mine from CMR aka www.cliftonmoorracing.co.uk if you wish to see his R32 GTR skyline, and his MR2 turbo then simply go to the gallery in CMR there is also a modification list aswell i think

he may then have an mr2, but its "not" advised to be having exactly the same width and same size tyres on all for corners of the car, like many have said! (this could be his only option if he is swapping fronts with rears, and it would be MADNESS if he did infact have different width and size tyres!)
surely someone with specs like this should realise this.

[peterk]

Oh really Jim !

Well i think that after stripping a rebuilding an mr2 from scratch and also converting an engine from a 2.0 to a rev3 turbo myself and be trackracing it for the last 5 years i think i know a bit more than you obviously do....I measn do you presume that a 300+ hp car will have standard wheels ? My brakes wouldnt even fit under there !

for starters i do rotate my front and rears they are 8.5 wide rims all round with 235 wide tyres. The best way to keep your tyre wear even is to swap the front and backs every now and again.

And before you all say that it is better to have smaller tyres on the front you are wrong (for trackdays the handling is greatly improved) by having 235 tyres all round when using coilover suspension. Its Needed for the right amount of oversteer when having a blown 300bhp+ engine in there.
And the point you made saying that the same width wheel all round isnt good anyway.....> what do you base this on ? have you also tried more than 10 different tyre combinations on a track ???

How much money would you like to bet that i dont have an MR2 then ?
Cos i bet that a few of you on here will have already seen it about at shows and tracks....



Theres always 1 that likes to jump in and TRY to show others up.... =D>


P.S. The other car on the strip is the CRD 1000hp Supra and i got halfway down there before it sailed on past...

My other car tho is this >




You will be seeing them at elvington in york at TOTB4 this year...

[peterk]

p.s. sorry yes i mean the Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 not pirelli.

And i have tried the s03 before and also combinations of others....

The f1's respond on a dry track and beacuse of their tread pattern they respond well to the lateral g force appliedand powerslide much better.

It doesnt help if the tyres grip too well and then break (lose grip) very quickly as it will spin 360, you are better with a tyre that can lose grip in a smoother more controlled pattern, hence i can slide better with those tyres than others.

[jimGTS]

Oh really Jim !

Well i think that after stripping a rebuilding an mr2 from scratch and also converting an engine from a 2.0 to a rev3 turbo myself and be trackracing it for the last 5 years i think i know a bit more than you obviously do....I measn do you presume that a 300+ hp car will have standard wheels ? My brakes wouldnt even fit under there !

for starters i do rotate my front and rears they are 8.5 wide rims all round with 235 wide tyres. The best way to keep your tyre wear even is to swap the front and backs every now and again.

And before you all say that it is better to have smaller tyres on the front you are wrong (for trackdays the handling is greatly improved) by having 235 tyres all round when using coilover suspension. Its Needed for the right amount of oversteer when having a blown 300bhp+ engine in there.
And the point you made saying that the same width wheel all round isnt good anyway.....> what do you base this on ? have you also tried more than 10 different tyre combinations on a track ???

How much money would you like to bet that i dont have an MR2 then ?
Cos i bet that a few of you on here will have already seen it about at shows and tracks....



Theres always 1 that likes to jump in and TRY to show others up.... =D>


P.S. The other car on the strip is the CRD 1000hp Supra and i got halfway down there before it sailed on past...

My other car tho is this >

You will be seeing them at elvington in york at TOTB4 this year...

i never presumed you had standard rims on a 300+bhp mr2. even more so on an mr2 with that spec. we all know for a fact that "stock" the mr2 had wider rims on the rear, this is what the mr2 was designed to have, and designed around, so sticking with this rule is advised to every on here. if you feel same width rims all round is great for track use, and great for you, then hooray for you my good sir, others may say the complete opposite.
and to add, this is "track use", i would be suprised if you thought the car handles better on the road with this set up rather than different rim widths/tyres sizes.

just my 2p mate,

oh, and i wish to bet 1 million dollars!

ps, love the skyline dude

[redeye32uk]

Don't you meen same size rims , wider tyres on the back than the front

[SFLee]

My comment still stand

same size tire all round is not as good as off set, I try it, and I also have coilover install, I the best I found was 235 front 255 back but thats my style of driving may be all round is good for you if Drifting is your thing

[tonigmr2]

Peter
You obviously have some interesting experiences with different set-ups, but being less confrontational will make you more friends here!

I love the skyline (have a yellow R33GTR myself) - what revision is your MR2? Is that an early car with a later engine? When you say 'trackracing' what do you mean - am just interested as MR2s are definitely sufferers of understeer on track.
T

[peterk]

I know it was a lot of defense for the first post but i have seen this car company slated before over something that was not their fault, it always happens on forums like this and people are always quick to brand companies a bad importer just going off someone elses story.
U all dont think about the fact that it is a major effect to their business when they are priding themselves on not importing pieces of xxxx.

I was not referring to Keithley car trade center (it is called beeches motor company thats 5 mins from them)
however i have expirience of them (kiethley) trying to rip people off.

I went in asking for a replacement skyline for my old gtr33 vspec and they tried to convince me that they had an 800hp race car and that they had an immaculate r33gtr in bayside blue. upon close inspection (as i know what im looking at) it was an r33 gts with a very worn r32 gtr engine put in it.
There was no 4 wheel steering (they promised me that they had it checked out and it was in fact a gtr) etc etc etc They had no idea what they are on about and they have a bodyshop that gets cheap crap and then tarts it up, clocks the milage and sells it on for a massive profit.

Basically you can get imports from many places but IF you do want to buy one then KNOW/LEARN about what to look for when buying one.

Distinctive do get good cars in from the ones i have seen, they dont buy xxxx and then touch/bodge it up for sale like EVERYwhere else seems to be doing..... JUST GO SEE 4 YOURSELVES

I have no personal gain from putting this but you shouldnt all listen to stories that can ruin businesses and just buy sensibly >

IMHO i'd get an AA check on every car i bought if i wasnt sure what to look for.

Anyway rant over.

Pete

[peterk]

Peter
You obviously have some interesting experiences with different set-ups, but being less confrontational will make you more friends here!

I love the skyline (have a yellow R33GTR myself) - what revision is your MR2? Is that an early car with a later engine? When you say 'trackracing' what do you mean - am just interested as MR2s are definitely sufferers of understeer on track.
T

Hi there tony,

I know that being less conforntational would be better but i thought that my first post was and then i get told that im bu11sh1tting and i dont know what im on about......

I have no problem in people presuming that, as you will always get someone who "thinks they know best" lol I can respect opinions and wouldnt say otherwise, it is personal preference that i like that tyre width choice all round as i am more suited to drifting the car (i personally think its much more fun and better for spectators to watch)

As you say understeer on a track in an MR2 is an issue, therefore by going onto a 235 of the front the steering will pull the car into oversteer much better and also by having the same width when it breaks into a slide it will not "snap" as much due to the even grip front and back. I also add some extra ballast into the front compartment......
My mr2 is a 1991 car with a late rev 3 turbo engine in it

The skyline was built to my spec from a bare shell, Rod Bell (im sure you will have heard that name) was the one I personally bought it from before all the work began.
It runs at 600+bhp very reliably (can go more but it will cost me a rebuild after so long) I am the current leader in the straightliners championship this year and i hope to win every race i go to in it

[tonigmr2]

At the end of the day people just post up their experiences - good or bad. I take on board the fact that companies cannot keep happy 100% of customers 100% of the time, but that doesn't mean if someone is unhappy they shouldn't talk about it.

Normally if there are enough happy customers it all balances out - indeed as as happened here with your posting on positive experiences with them. You just made people suspicious as you've no previous postings them come on and defend a company, everyone assumes in these circumstances the poster has something to do with the company!!

Anyway welcome to IMOC and I hope we can have benefit of your obvious experience on here!! We'd love to hear about the racing for instance!

Toni

[peterk]

Well due to my location i am a regular at elvington and have in the past been to silverstone and oulton park (although i really need to get more power out of the mr2 for a full size circuit)

I think that the mr2 is a great trackday car and can be set up to run very very well.
Have to say that as standard though that the setup is appauling, the difference made by adjusting the suspension, ride height and camber and tyres can turn it into something really special.

I found that getting more power from the 3SGTE engine didnt make massive differences to the lap times as it tended to slide and wheelspin too much. I like the car running at this kind of power with a good setup and mint brakes
I am looking into putting my nitrous kit onto the car but i think that the internals might give up if i try another 100lb/ft of torque through there.

Does anyone else have expirience with NOS in their MR2 ?

[tonigmr2]

They most certainly do, there are a couple of regular Nos-a-holics on here! You're better off starting a thread asking though as they may not spot your question here.
T