'05 wrx sti

[Rikki]

LOL. That was a while back though still a good time considering the 18" wheels, dynamat and full audio install. Now got a Berk intercooler and NOS to play with

R

[luthor1]

ROFL! You people are so funny, it's like winding up a clockwork toy and watching the sparks fly.

Ok, firstly a 2005 WRX has 221bhp, and does 5.7. The UK WRX300 has 261bhp and does 4.8. The 2004 WR1 Sti has 315bhp and does 4.1.

These numbers are even in Parkers online for all to see!!

Rikki, interesting to note that yes, on the run where your raced Gordon you beat him, but you quote your fastest time there of 13.544 during all runs. Gordons is 13.329. Infact he ran a few under 13.5 during his runs!! Bad example dude, cherry picking specific results, you lose all credibility

EDIT: Rikki, where on your crail website link does it say Gordon's car is 300+bhp? it says "up to 2000cc Turbo" and his is referred to as an STi. Doesn't even say what year?!?!?!?!! Classic STi's are around 276bhp, later ones are 261 etc...

[V8Killer]

I've raced 300+bhp Scoobies at Crail raceway and beaten them :

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/show_time ... RaceID=544

Aint hard to do, even from a standing start.

R.

Looks like a normal STi to me. Huge difference between an STi and an STi Type-R/RA! Huge!

Just to give you an idea, a well driven 300BHP Type-R/RA do 12.5 seconds all day long! I did a 12 flat with 360BHP!

Good times though!

[summ0004]

By the looks of it at the start of the post he raced a Uk Sti and not a type R so all this stuff about how much faster these "special" scoobys are is irrelevant.

[Rikki]

ROFL! You people are so funny, it's like winding up a clockwork toy and watching the sparks fly.

Ok, firstly a 2005 WRX has 221bhp, and does 5.7. The UK WRX300 has 261bhp and does 4.8. The 2004 WR1 Sti has 315bhp and does 4.1.

These numbers are even in Parkers online for all to see!!

Rikki, interesting to note that yes, on the run where your raced Gordon you beat him, but you quote your fastest time there of 13.544 during all runs. Gordons is 13.329. Infact he ran a few under 13.5 during his runs!! Bad example dude, cherry picking specific results, you lose all credibility

EDIT: Rikki, where on your crail website link does it say Gordon's car is 300+bhp? it says "up to 2000cc Turbo" and his is referred to as an STi. Doesn't even say what year?!?!?!?!! Classic STi's are around 276bhp, later ones are 261 etc...

I know him, thats how I know the power, I didnt say "I read it on teh interweb". I quoted a "race with a Scooby" where an MR2 won, that simple.

Crail's surface (for those like yourself not in the know) is a dirt track so better 1/4 mile times could be achieved on a decent surface.

Enjoy.

R

[Rikki]

I've raced 300+bhp Scoobies at Crail raceway and beaten them :

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/show_time ... RaceID=544

Aint hard to do, even from a standing start.

R.

Looks like a normal STi to me. Huge difference between an STi and an STi Type-R/RA! Huge!

Just to give you an idea, a well driven 300BHP Type-R/RA do 12.5 seconds all day long! I did a 12 flat with 360BHP!

Good times though!

I didnt say it was a Type-R, have a re-read of the post

[revturbo]

By the looks of it at the start of the post he raced a Uk Sti and not a type R so all this stuff about how much faster these "special" scoobys are is irrelevant.

exactly!

why are we even discussing type r etc

all i wanted to know was, has anyone else raced one of these? and how did you get on?

[splashnatz]

yes, i've been up against some 05 and 55 plate imprezas. no, i haven't been impressed by them. Saying that, most new cars will still be under warranty, so owners are probably reluctant to play about too much in the engine bay.

[Rikki]

yes, i've been up against some 05 and 55 plate imprezas. no, i haven't been impressed by them. Saying that, most new cars will still be under warranty, so owners are probably reluctant to play about too much in the engine bay.

You'd be surprised! There are a lot of Subaru garages out there that turn a blind eye to decats, downpipes, boost controllers and the like now.

I know what you mean about the performance of them though. Had an import STi for the week running 18psi and it was shockingly slow. And a friends UK300 was awful, power wise.

R.

[The Morris]

so whats quicker 300 BHP scooby or 300 BHP mR2

[Rikki]

so whats quicker 300 BHP scooby or 300 BHP mR2

They're both slow, buy an Evo

(ducks)

[luthor1]

lol Rikki!!

If you talk classic shape, then 300bhp scooby is quicer 0-60/0-100/1.4mile but not top speed. Reasons are traction, and gearing mainly, the scooby managing 100mph in 3rd quite easily, and onto 140mph in 4th it's no slouch at the top either.

The Scooby AWD system isn't as restrictive as you'd imagine, and don't forget the scoob and the MR2 weigh the same!!

Round a track the scoob has a much better chassis and would win there almost always bhp for bhp.

I have plumbed the numbers into CarTest and it predicts the Scoob to win. For those doubting thomas's, CarTest is obviously fictitious, and not "real" however it's algorithms are at least consistent and the virtual driver changes gear at the same rate each time, and the tyres are of uniform grip.

(LOL @ Rikki - Evo! )

[Scotster]

Was this your scooby luthor?

Reason i ask is that would mean it would be a lot faster than an evo 5/6 and i seen a lot of jealousy between the owners in the brief period i owned one. I can guarantee you that the classic shape Sti aint faster than an evo V yet all your figures say that it is. In fact bhp for bhp the only 2 i've seen go quicker than an evo was a WR1 and a type-r. Both with their trick gear ratio's.

Would have either a P1 or a type r/RA anyday but there aint no STI that will do those figures standard, or with minor mods taking them to 300.

Scott =op

[luthor1]

yeah was my scoob, now is a friend of mines.

We have a G-meter on it too. If there is anyone in Hampshire, come over to verify otherwise this will just run and run.

I could take a video of the speedo in a 0-60 run?

It really does run 4.4's.

[V8Killer]

Sorry if i stepped on any of your toes, but i was referring to the following comment:

"Wasnt a problem either A work collegue had a 97 Type-R 2 door with increased boost and other bits and bobs, my car back then was running with std boost and only a decat and exhaust. They were neck and neck all the way to about 130mph then I'd start pulling away. "

I know for a fact a real Type-R pulls all the way to 160MPH+, but some of the earlier ones had even shorter gear ratios and topped out at 125MPH. You may well have raced one of those!

[luthor1]

he is still only on standard boost on a MR2 Tubby, it's got even less chanse against a close-ratio RA?!

[The Morris]

went on the track in the new, new STI. I was a passenger. Didnt feel as quick as my car, perhaps it was the extra space of the track. Didnt know what BHP it was. They had a standaerd one and a STI

[Kongaroo]

lol Rikki!!

If you talk classic shape, then 300bhp scooby is quicer 0-60/0-100/1.4mile but not top speed. Reasons are traction, and gearing mainly, the scooby managing 100mph in 3rd quite easily, and onto 140mph in 4th it's no slouch at the top either.

The Scooby AWD system isn't as restrictive as you'd imagine, and don't forget the scoob and the MR2 weigh the same!!

Round a track the scoob has a much better chassis and would win there almost always bhp for bhp.

I have plumbed the numbers into CarTest and it predicts the Scoob to win. For those doubting thomas's, CarTest is obviously fictitious, and not "real" however it's algorithms are at least consistent and the virtual driver changes gear at the same rate each time, and the tyres are of uniform grip.

(LOL @ Rikki - Evo! )

Another good site is www.letstorquebhp.com which has a 'calculator' for awd,rwd,fwd.

On this site there are a lot of theoretical values for lots of cars and is a great read

Btw it lists the uk sti as 1470kg and www.subaru.co.uk lists the 2006 UK STi model as 1495kg so at equal bhp I would still expect the mr2 to catch the scooby by the 1/4 mile and have a definate advantage from 60-100 due to 150+kg lighter, much lower drag cd and less transmission loss.

Although as you said the scoob would normally win the 0-60 dash.

I still don't see why the original post was so unbelievable - he is running 16psi which is 270-300 odd fwhp depending on the air/fuel ratio. He also states 229bhp at the hubs so roughly 270bhp sounds about right?

Btw congrats on the good run rikki!

[Rikki]

Sorry if i stepped on any of your toes, but i was referring to the following comment:

"Wasnt a problem either A work collegue had a 97 Type-R 2 door with increased boost and other bits and bobs, my car back then was running with std boost and only a decat and exhaust. They were neck and neck all the way to about 130mph then I'd start pulling away. "

I know for a fact a real Type-R pulls all the way to 160MPH+, but some of the earlier ones had even shorter gear ratios and topped out at 125MPH. You may well have raced one of those!

Here's a pic of the car (after he sold it on and had it cosmetically altered)

:



Had the dawes device, induction kit, big dirty exhaust, hayward & scott downpipe/decat etc etc and no audio or anything else in it. I *think* that the proof is in the lack of doors.

R.

[luthor1]

3-door scoob's are the ones to have...

Yes, the later scoobs are much heavier, they god a load of euro-safety trash installed

Classic shape will always rule.