Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
How much did your pistons cost from the States may I ask? And where did you get them from?
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
i bought them from ebay.
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think it worked out about 90 quid or something like that.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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The communication was good, i got over sized pistons and rings but standard fitment shells and thrust washers.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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I think in reality everything in my original Block would have cleaned up really nice and still been way within tolerance but i just liked the idea of nice new shiney internals.
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i can see this engine going into more than one shell in its life time
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.would be nice to give it a fresh start
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think it worked out about 90 quid or something like that.
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The communication was good, i got over sized pistons and rings but standard fitment shells and thrust washers.
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I think in reality everything in my original Block would have cleaned up really nice and still been way within tolerance but i just liked the idea of nice new shiney internals.
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
Thats bloody cheap init?!
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
i thought so.
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main reason why i decided to change it all.
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
Only small updates from the weekend, i have managed to get a bit more welding done and i have started the first pass filler ont he arch.
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We have actually just accepted an offer on our house so can't see to much more work being done on her
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its all box's and packing and discusions about what we should keep and what we should take this opportunity to throw away.
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We have actually just accepted an offer on our house so can't see to much more work being done on her
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
Well the offer on the house is.
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awaiting the rest of he chain now as one of the buyers further down pulled out
(they were at the start and had been in it for over 3 months, i completed the chain.
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only for them to pull out, its a funny game this house buying
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Well not much done on the car to be honest but i had a few hours yesterday
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I finished all the inner arch repairs and after much filling and sanding i thought i would get a coat of pimer on to see just how bad it is.
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Well non of it was anywhere near where it needs to be.
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Arch has a loverly wobble.
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the smoothed out lines were.
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a little on the lumpy side
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And the rest of the panel was well.
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crap tbh.
There has been a previous repair and i took a fair bit of filler off, now i know why as most of the panel will need a thin skim.
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Oh well, all the joy of the learning curve i supose, mno harm done just means more hours of annoying the neighbours with my orbital sander!!!
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I also cleaned up a few more of the engine parts, i had bought some
"Gunk" before but hadn't rated it, However i got a another tin and thought i would give it another go.
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and boy this stuff was so much better, i can still smell it on my skin today.
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I cleaned the end caps and they cam eup pretty good, while cleaning i noticed that the relief for the bearing was clogged up solid so gace it a good clean out.
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would that be effecting lubrication?
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Well not much done on the car to be honest but i had a few hours yesterday
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I finished all the inner arch repairs and after much filling and sanding i thought i would get a coat of pimer on to see just how bad it is.
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Well non of it was anywhere near where it needs to be.
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Arch has a loverly wobble.
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the smoothed out lines were.
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And the rest of the panel was well.
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Oh well, all the joy of the learning curve i supose, mno harm done just means more hours of annoying the neighbours with my orbital sander!!!
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I also cleaned up a few more of the engine parts, i had bought some
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I cleaned the end caps and they cam eup pretty good, while cleaning i noticed that the relief for the bearing was clogged up solid so gace it a good clean out.
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
Well I have 2 days off and I have decided to crack on with the mr2.
Of course the job list is as long as my arm but I have decided a coil over conversion mod.
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The rear suspension was already off with working on the rear arch and inner, so I started there.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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Spring clamp things on, not sure they are really needed on the rear but better safe than sorry.
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Well after 20+ years this is probably why people suspension is not quite as good as it once was, this damper had 0 rebound, I could push it all the way with my little finger
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The gland nut was not coming off so after a little trip to a mates body shop and some oxy acet later the nut was free
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Back home and the spring seat was attacked with the grinder
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Well I had a huge 3 inch washer that I had the internal diameter put to the casing diameter, I have tacked it on for now just checking everything lines up but seems to look good
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Front is pretty much the same apart from it has a bearing in the top mount which when I took off has the remnence of a dust cover
/ foam washer which I will need to replace.
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Any ideas?
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The rear suspension was already off with working on the rear arch and inner, so I started there.
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Spring clamp things on, not sure they are really needed on the rear but better safe than sorry.
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Well after 20+ years this is probably why people suspension is not quite as good as it once was, this damper had 0 rebound, I could push it all the way with my little finger
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The gland nut was not coming off so after a little trip to a mates body shop and some oxy acet later the nut was free
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Back home and the spring seat was attacked with the grinder
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Well I had a huge 3 inch washer that I had the internal diameter put to the casing diameter, I have tacked it on for now just checking everything lines up but seems to look good
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Front is pretty much the same apart from it has a bearing in the top mount which when I took off has the remnence of a dust cover
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
Quick up date, the dust cap is the same as mk2 and still available from MrT, not generally in stock but available same day, picking mine up at 2 today, hopefully get the passenger side finished today.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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Part number is 90303-22049 in case your interested.
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
Interesting coilover convertion Boondougal
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Is the threaded height adjuster a push fit over the original casing
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Is the threaded height adjuster a push fit over the original casing
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
Pretty much! That's why I welded on a new platform for them, you can get steel which can be welded straight to your casing.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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I do have to point out I am basically copying what some other people have already done on other sites.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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I do have to point out I am basically copying what some other people have already done on other sites.
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boondougal wrote:Pretty much! That's why I welded on a new platform for them, you can get steel which can be welded straight to your casing.
I do have to point out I am basically copying what some other people have already done on other sites.
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Yes Paul woods has done them somewhere on most of the threads, looking good
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The odd front top mounts are TRD
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
where did you get the coilovers from and how much? ![thumleft :thumleft:](./images/smilies/icon_thumleft.gif)
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
I just used a kit like this, mx5 has the engine up front so just need to make sure the rear springs go on the front of the mister2 and vice a versa.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
The helper springs and seat are from Faulkner springs, have to saysuper service.
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Ordered at 3 pm and they were with me just after mid day the next day.
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
well i thought i would finish up dating the thread with a final few pics that add to the conversion on the front.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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The ID on the front seat had to be opened out to 45mm, the rears are wider and had to be opened to 50mm.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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Here is the seat welded to the casing
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the seat position on the fronts is also different to the rears.
I didn't want the threaded sleeve to hide the gland nut
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the rear were perfect as they were
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the fronts have the bearing in the top mount that located into the spring top seat, the spring seat included the flat sided locator for the damper shaft, in order to maintain this and the appropriate location and seat for the bearing i cut it out.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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this is the Damper spring and spring seat that i got from DFaulkner springs, its 4 inches long and only has 4lb of pressure.
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its really an anti rattle spring.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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I havn't got a pic but i cut down the bump stop as well, just left the top bit of it around the damper shaft.
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I will probably do a more coherent write up once i have finished sand blasting and powder coating everthing.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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The ID on the front seat had to be opened out to 45mm, the rears are wider and had to be opened to 50mm.
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Here is the seat welded to the casing
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the seat position on the fronts is also different to the rears.
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the fronts have the bearing in the top mount that located into the spring top seat, the spring seat included the flat sided locator for the damper shaft, in order to maintain this and the appropriate location and seat for the bearing i cut it out.
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this is the Damper spring and spring seat that i got from DFaulkner springs, its 4 inches long and only has 4lb of pressure.
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I havn't got a pic but i cut down the bump stop as well, just left the top bit of it around the damper shaft.
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I will probably do a more coherent write up once i have finished sand blasting and powder coating everthing.
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
Well I have had a couple of days painting cleaning and removing stuff and this is what I have in front of me, I actually shot blasted the suspension arms but it took ages and although it was good for all the reseses I'm not 100% sure it was fully necessary, depends how perfect you want things I suppose.
All the shiney black items have por15 on them, the other not so shiney items will be getting either black or silver por 15 over the next few days.
I also stated the polybushing.
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Which is actually a pretty straight forward job I found.![](./images/smilies/spacer.gif)
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It is actually starting to feel like progress!
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It is actually starting to feel like progress!
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
I've seen an MX5 that had a quick change suspension system BoonDougal
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He had 6 or seven sets of front springs, all rated differently
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Dunno the exact design but evidently not coilover
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He had 6 or seven sets of front springs, all rated differently
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Dunno the exact design but evidently not coilover
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
I do envisage at some point needing to change the coils, I think these will be too stiff, plus it might need 6 inch coils when these are only 4.
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Time will tell I suppose
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Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
Well as a quick up date I have basically been cleaning and painting as many parts as I can, here is a bad pic of the engine parts painted in a bright blue.
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I have also today re fitted the steering rack, and built up the passenger front suspension back onto the car.
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Basically we are moving soon so I am starting to refit as much as a can to make sure it's a solid rolling chasis for the relocation!
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I have also today re fitted the steering rack, and built up the passenger front suspension back onto the car.
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Basically we are moving soon so I am starting to refit as much as a can to make sure it's a solid rolling chasis for the relocation!
Re: Mk1b restoration... its alive..and painted!!
I like the cam covers in that blue colour Boondougal
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Are the polybushes easy to fit
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Did you press them in
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Are the polybushes easy to fit
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Did you press them in
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