Porsche Boxster drivers - bigger knobs than Beemer drivers?

[mr2nut123]

What do you buy a Boxster for?

To pick up girls and to show people you have more money than sense.

Although not in that order.

I'd rather pick up the easy girls in the tubby and get a far better shag than having to spend more on champagne and end up finding out shes not into sex before marriage.

Either way if you need a car to pick up a bird theres something seriously wrong. Night out in Bradford = tons of fitties whilst the poor bu88er in his Boxster drives around wasting his petrol.

I dont really get the 'sense' bit. For example, look at those mad japs with tons of cash. They prefer to have a tuned skyline than so called 'supercars'. There are plenty, and I mean plenty of sexy supercars (pagani zonda s, gt3cs, ford gt40) the list could go on, but the Boxster is just a big sloppy failure.

[Amelio]

Never driven one but they are proper ugly, not quite as ugly as their fellow frog looking Cayenne, but pretty damn ugly.

[Greddy-Matt]

Never driven one but they are proper ugly, not quite as ugly as their fellow frog looking Cayenne, but pretty damn ugly.

I wonder if the owners walk around the Boxter wondering which end is the front

[mr2nut123]

Never driven one but they are proper ugly, not quite as ugly as their fellow frog looking Cayenne, but pretty damn ugly.

I wonder if the owners walk around the Boxter wondering which end is the front

I've always thought that aswel. I dont know how Porsche dare put their badge on it to be honest. It's a disgrace to their name.

[Rev2_mike]

Hmmm, interesting comments people have made here. Personally i've never driven a boxter myself but a colleague at work has a facelifted one (55 plate) and i think it looks like a very nice car - certainly much nicer than my MR2 - but it did cost 38k so it should be. Its not a disgrace to the badge, odd thing to say i think. I do think they're bought by people for the badge though - reviews of the car do seem to suggest its a very well sorted car by all accounts. Although i might not choose it i'd never suggest my MR2 handles much better is better built etc etc - it may be quicker in a straght line - but not by much tbh. i think my '2 is a fantastic car for the money - its great, but to compare it against much newer and more expensive machinery seems a litle daft. Yes a lot of folks who buy them have a typical attitude - but then so do some people on here and it has to be little bit of jealousy somewhere even if people dont want to admit it. Each to their own i think. But i do agree with ollie - pointless thread

[Si_Crewe]

Never driven one but they are proper ugly, not quite as ugly as their fellow frog looking Cayenne, but pretty damn ugly.

I wonder if the owners walk around the Boxter wondering which end is the front

It's easy for a Boxter driver to figure out which end is the front.

The front is the end that overtook you first and the rear is what you'll be looking at afterwards.

Probably best to drive a Boxster before forming a real opinion on them because they are one of the most incredible cars on the road. Particularly the S models.

[Mike]

Never driven one but they are proper ugly, not quite as ugly as their fellow frog looking Cayenne, but pretty damn ugly.

I wonder if the owners walk around the Boxter wondering which end is the front

It's easy for a Boxter driver to figure out which end is the front.

The front is the end that overtook you first and the rear is what you'll be looking at afterwards.

Probably best to drive a Boxster before forming a real opinion on them because they are one of the most incredible cars on the road. Particularly the S models.

The only thing a boxster could overtake is a tractor . Very good cars yes, sublime handleing etc but not fast.
I think it comes down to Porsche making the "mistake" of producing a car for the masses, once upon a time owning a Porsche was a sign of affluence and success, with that comes exclusivity. The 911 Turbo was notorious in the 80s for keeping the Yuppie population under control
Along comes the Boxster, a Porsche for Mondeo money, a car to rival RX8s and S2000s rather than Ferraris and Lambos and the mystique is lost...................thats my opinion anyway

[Lauren]

The only thing a boxster could overtake is a tractor . Very good cars yes, sublime handleing etc but not fast.
I think it comes down to Porsche making the "mistake" of producing a car for the masses, once upon a time owning a Porsche was a sign of affluence and success, with that comes exclusivity. The 911 Turbo was notorious in the 80s for keeping the Yuppie population under control
Along comes the Boxster, a Porsche for Mondeo money, a car to rival RX8s and S2000s rather than Ferraris and Lambos and the mystique is lost...................thats my opinion anyway

I don't think there is anything wrong with producing a porsche that is affordable to many. It still a stonkingly good drivers car however you look at it. Outright speed isn't everything. Far from it in fact. It never ceases to amaze me the pre-occupation turbo owners have with outright speed. Is it because its their only 'trump' card?

Once upon a time was back in the 80s.. i remember it well, but that was then and this is now.

[Amelio]

My opinion is based on looks...i think it sucks and would never purchase a car which i thought looked ugly. Simple.

Far play for mass producing a car in that price bracket, they've prob made a bloody fortune with the Boxster so hats off to them.

[Mike]

The only thing a boxster could overtake is a tractor . Very good cars yes, sublime handleing etc but not fast.
I think it comes down to Porsche making the "mistake" of producing a car for the masses, once upon a time owning a Porsche was a sign of affluence and success, with that comes exclusivity. The 911 Turbo was notorious in the 80s for keeping the Yuppie population under control
Along comes the Boxster, a Porsche for Mondeo money, a car to rival RX8s and S2000s rather than Ferraris and Lambos and the mystique is lost...................thats my opinion anyway

I don't think there is anything wrong with producing a porsche that is affordable to many. It still a stonkingly good drivers car however you look at it. Outright speed isn't everything. Far from it in fact. It never ceases to amaze me the pre-occupation turbo owners have with outright speed. Is it because its their only 'trump' card?

Once upon a time was back in the 80s.. i remember it well, but that was then and this is now.

My point exactly, there is nothing wrong with the Boxster, or with producing a prestige car at a cheap price which is why I put the word "mistake" in quotations.
My point is that Porsche was once an unobtainable brand that had a reputation for making brutally fast cars that people lusted over and to many people the Boxster doesn't live up to that reputation. Is that so hard to understand?

If Ferrari made a roadster that produced 250hp that was regularly shown up by cheap Japanese cars and cost 30k it too would end up with a stigma attached to it and anyone who bought one.
At no point did I say that the Porsche was a bad car or that the MR2 Turbo was better?!?

What exactly is your problem with Mk2 Turbos Lauren?

[Aidy]

What exactly is your problem with Mk2 Turbos Lauren?

Think her problem is more with what's between the steering wheel and the seat

[Mike]

FFS not you again!!!

Just gets me that at no point in my post did I compare the Tubby to a Boxster.
Would I swap my MR2 for a Boxster? Hell yes (but only if it was black )
Si made a joke suggesting that Boxsters are fast and I made one suggesting they were slow.
Which apparently means that I and all other Tubby owners are obsessed the MR2's "only" reedeming feature its straightline speed.

Those sort of jibes wear a bit thin.

[tonigmr2]

Well I've had a few MR2s and turbos, and a few tuned...

I LOVED the Boxster though. Sorry guys but the two I have test driven were awesome. The point is they do it all - and effortlessly. A tuned MR2 is a lot harder work in all departments. That's my honest opinion.

I also test drove two 911s - both NAs - also awesome. Yes and better all round than the Boxster (what was that? 100+mph? !! I didn't even notice )

Have to say very VERY nearly sold all my MR2s to get one earlier this year. Didn't as the sums didn't quite add up and would leave me too skint. But rest assured my day will come.

T

[Mike]

Well I've had a few MR2s and turbos, and a few tuned...

I LOVED the Boxster though. Sorry guys but the two I have test driven were awesome. The point is they do it all - and effortlessly. A tuned MR2 is a lot harder work in all departments. That's my honest opinion.

I also test drove two 911s - both NAs - also awesome. Yes and better all round than the Boxster (what was that? 100+mph? !! I didn't even notice )

Have to say very VERY nearly sold all my MR2s to get one earlier this year. Didn't as the sums didn't quite add up and would leave me too skint. But rest assured my day will come.

T

Would you get a new or used one? If new I think I'd prefer a Cayman S.
Saying that, for the same kinda money you could get a used Sagaris

[tonigmr2]

Would you get a new or used one? If new I think I'd prefer a Cayman S.
Saying that, for the same kinda money you could get a used Sagaris

How can you compare a Sagaris in the same breath!! LOL, the thing about the Porsches are they are just so damn capable - and comfortable with it. It's like a looney with a suit on.

Yes like the Caymans - haven't driven one yet. Apparently also awesome and would outdo the 911 if it has an LSD...

T

[Lauren]

What exactly is your problem with Mk2 Turbos Lauren?

They are vastly over-rated on here. I just find it utterly bemusing when people say how a turbo is so much better than this or that and 'i don't like porsches, bmw's etcetera'.

All it demonstrates is a lack of knowledge of such cars.

[luthor1]

I bet Lauren has only driven shockingly old ones with dodgy bushes and loose tired suspension, and the poor-mans de-limiter which lightens up the steering.

Infact, we heard positive comments from her regarding Toni's which had Tein coilovers all roundl; funny that! What, so I can buy one for £3k, fit £1k suspension on and get a car which handles acceptably? ...or was it just because it was "Toni"?

I'll wager any MR2 with good suspension 'modernisation' will be miles away from the 16-yr-old runabouts most people are still driving.

Old cars drive loose, that's a simple fact.

[tonigmr2]

LOL Luthor1 - actually Lauren has driven several of my cars, including MK2 turbos, and only one she liked. Indeed, it was the best handling MK2 I have ever had - but then I have always argued that they are all different (and they are).

It's more that people don't get Porsche's - they are successful for a reason, and that reason is they are damn good. Yes you pay for it, but don't expect people who do to rate an old Toyota with a bit of uprated suspension as even on the same playing field! Still, horses for courses, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
T

[Tiamat]

What exactly is your problem with Mk2 Turbos Lauren?

They are vastly over-rated on here. I just find it utterly bemusing when people say how a turbo is so much better than this or that and 'i don't like porsches, bmw's etcetera'.

All it demonstrates is a lack of knowledge of such cars.

Sorry Lauren, but what a load of cobblers!
The fact someone like me may not like BMWs is probably not because I lack knowledge of those cars, its the fact I think that they are overpriced and you can get better for your money.
Its personal opinion.
Yes the turbo is vastly over-rated on this site, but also a lot of people are modifying them now to get such powergains and handling that its a Porsche beater for a tenth of the price of a Porsche.
Stock for stock basis, or course the Porsche has a Turbo beaten, I should hope so for the price tag they ask for, but once into modifying territory you can narrow the gap so quickly.
So to some people, the Turbo will be better, it will also suit their driving style.
Its all personal opinion at the end of the day.

[luthor1]

We have stories of comparison on the road, but of course we are slapped for dangerous driving. We have stories of keeping up/pulling away on the track, but "the other driver was not trying/was gooning". Exactly what test is required in order to be allowed to make our point? No-one is standing up and taking any challenges!

We have an NA mk2 running 0.6secs a lap off the all-conquering Integra type-R on track and yet obviously a tubby wouldn't trounce it?

We have the vid of the rx-7, porsche carrera4, nsx, supra twin turbo, skyline where the MR2 set the 3rd fastest lap...

I fail to see where the evidence is to suggest it isn't an excellent car when you put it into situations and it produces the laptimes?

The only answer we get is "the electric PAS is trash" and "the front end feels vague". Well, remove the PAS or get the correct speed delimiter, and fit a strut brace and remove the rubber disc, problem solved?