Moderators: IMOC Moderators, IMOC Committee Members
The 2gr without a turbo is something ridiculous like 250bhp at 2k rpm. There's no turbo 2 litre making that kind of low down grunt. My friend is toying with a NA 2gr over his 2.2 HKS built 700-800bhp 3sgte. The mr2 for me is always gonna be a bit of a project and I can't see how there's a better platform that a 3.5 litre (4 litre if bored out) V6. I'd be keen to use the EFR range on this also! It's ridiculously high compared to a 3sgte at the same revs though! I'll be buying an R8 this year as well so sure I can put them head to head 
:D I feel I've outgrown 4 cylinders, I had a 500bhp 335i and the low down grunt was phenomenal. That's not to say the mr2 wouldn't win a race but I'm after high power and maximum driveability from it and you can't have both (to the extent I want) from a 2 litre engine 
Donald wrote:raptor95GTS wrote:mm think thats the torque figure you are quoting as the 2GR makes about 280whp at something like 6500rpm IIRC
Not always.
Ta
- near enough. First guy to do it got 275whp and created the kits to make it all work- cubes make it easier for sure and as you say it's what you want for your car. Enjoy it, they sound amazing (having been in one / followed one)...from my research (reading what Paul woods has achieved) the 2GR with decent exhaust, filter and cams can do around 350 and I believe Lotus have eeked 370bhp from them. However, Those figures are irrelevant to me, I'll be going fully forged and turbo charged. And absolutely 100% buy another car! Start with a better base etc and I will...But i'll be keeping my mr2 as well because it's the car I always wanted. It's a money pit but it's MY money pit, It will never keep up with a modern can in any respect on any level but that's not why I own a mr2 and never will be :D I can reiterate enough just how important displacement is with regards to what I want from the car! Realistically a drama free 500bhp or if I really want potentially over 1000bhp. Peak figure is unimportant and in hindsight I wish i'd taken seriously the advice told to me during my original build however these are mistakes one has to make personally before learning the lesson:)Donald wrote:
- near enough. First guy to do it got 275whp and created the kits to make it all work If you read that build carefully you'll find that he has to make custom exhaust manifolds to reach that power level..that's extra on the top of half the million! Torque figures very disappointing compare what you'll have to pay for this conversion in UK. There are better conversion could be done then 2gr,1mz-fe..the later one is the worst[/quote] What I'm talking about is a blank cheque V6 build for the car I've owned for 9 years and intend to own the rest of my life. I've sunk EASILY £30k into it at this point (probably closer to £45k). I have the financial resources to sink another £45k into it if I feel like it. So a custom exhaust manifold really is something I was assuming i'd need anyway. Stock 3sgte and stock 2GR really aren't something I give a toss about. My current 480bhp build is largely custom. If it wasn't for the absurdity i'd be looking at a 2jz in there. My main point is I don't like the way a 2 litre with a massive turbo attached works. Simple as that. I've had mr2s for 20 years. I know exactly what I want from it and the current setup just doesn't cut it for me. Nor would bolting on an EFR turbo.Donald wrote:
280whp in mr2 conversions
2gr-fe 280whp in MR2 conversions lol You can get more then that out of stock 3sgte easily
"1mz + case of beer" threads on there so I'm good with what I post here thank you.(for a sports car) and didn't really suit the engine bay of the mr2 and many folks go custom top mount manifolds on the 3SGTE engine anyway. Point is, 275-280whp out of the box with OEM reliability using OEM ECU from the donor car. That was the point of the conversion for him and he was nice enough to post everything he did and make / commission conversion kits for others to follow. 
This user was meant to banned donkeys ago. Why he's managed to pop up is beyond me (always on my threads too). He's a moron. Hence my snotty post.Ryan S wrote:Don't engage dude.
Difficult job keeping the nuggets out, they seem to have to much time of their hands, esp these days! It's a phenomenal power plant. Just now what I want! I really do want that massive engine sat in the bay 
Having a 2 litre engine no longer appeals to me. My forged build is going 98+ 3sge square edged Same as yours The oil squirters are on ALL UK engines. A JDM NA does not come with oil squirters, Only the turbos do.Ryan S wrote:3sge bud.
Little known fact about the oil squirter situation.
