Mk1 MR2 Conversion ideas, prices, places to source bits etc etc.

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Mk1 MR2 Conversion ideas, prices, places to source bits etc etc.

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Okey Dokey. Had my Mk1 for just over 4 years and decided i've spent too much on it and like the lil begger too much to get rid of it. Had my engine out as lost 4litres of oil in 14 miles. Not good. Found my block was warped and one of my pistons is... well it's mullered.

I'm thinking ok time for a conversion instead of repairing or putting back another 16v 4AGE. Only prob money tight. £1000 Max. I like the idea of a nice revvy silver top and Fensport sell just the engine for £550. The 4AGZE is also overwhelmingly tempting and only £495 from www.fensport.co.uk but again only engine. How hard and expensive is it to source loom, ECU etc for both engines? Am i better off just saving a lil longer and paying for the whole lot from fensport. Is there anywhere else to get them? I've found a few 20v engines on ebay and the likes for around the £600 mark but with no loom, ECU, Dizzy or igniter. Also secret option number three how easy and is there much point in taking the 7a-fe block and mounting a 4age head on it to make a 1.8L 7age as it were and what power output could I expect too see?

All help much appreciated:)
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There is little point in all honesty in buying a GZE or 20v without the ECU and preferably all the other ancillary components. Its very hard indeed to source the loom and ancillary components and the ECUs are like hens teeth. So I'd never advise that you buy a GZE or 20v without an ECU.

For a grand I don't think you can do it, in fact I know you can't. Best save a bit longer.

A complete engine is around £1250-1450 depending on whether you go for GZE (more expensive) or 20v.

To convert a car to GZE or 20v reckon you are looking at 2K to do it properly, that's providing you do it all yourself.

7 years ago I paid 3.5K for a turnkey GZE conversion with all the bits I required ie exhaust filter big pulley etc.
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As far as the 20v goes the 16 v header fits less the two outer holes (though nothing 15 mins with a welder won't fix) which enabling me to use my current exhaust. I have a C52 gearbox where I can mount the starter inlet side to avoid that problem (though with 16v header i'm not sure it would be problematic). there are loads of 20v ECU's on american ebay from £100-£150 without shipping. Would still need loom, igniter and dizzy with the £600 engine I've found with 6 months warranty. Though like you said, easier said than done, those components are an ar$e to get ahold of. The last thing would be a smaller coolant resevoir, apparently one from a starlet fits straight in. Anything i've missed for the 20v???
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Is the alternator and starter any different from the 87-89 4age engine to the 4agze used in Levin's?
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Stick a 3sgte in there
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I'd love nothing more than to do a 3SGTE :) only i can't afford the engine with everything to run it let alone the cost of brake upgrades and suspension down the line. Could leave the car an engineless shell and save for a year though to acheive 3SGTE status... Hmmm... Would mean using my poxy 98' skoda for longer though, damn thing is sooooo slow.... hmmm.
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If I saved that much though to afford a 3SGTE then i'd prob go the route of hmm another few months of saving and i could afford a Camaro... :). Almost bought an iroc-z28 once but got a Mk2 MR2 instead. Sold the Mk2 though preferred the Mk1.
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It is possible but it involves waiting.

Crashed corolla's come up from time to time as do knackered MR2 chargers

A supercharger MR2 (missing all the extras but all engine and ancillieries) went on ebay for less than £500 recently.

I've seen 20v corollas with crashed damage go for £400

I've bought a MOT'd and Tax'd 20v blacktop corolla for £1000 I was going to break but it was too good to so sold it on.

My current 4agze once I finish the full rebuild will cost me ~£1000 all in due to breaking the car it was in.

So it is possible, just depends how much you want to wait for.

There is a clip up at woodsport atm for £1k
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OK if you want a cheep option what about a 3sge

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/toyota-mr2-2-0l-e ... 286.c0.m14
more work surely worth it, as 175bhp would give you the extra 50bhp
£100 cant go far wrong
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I've got a black top complete with ecu, loom and all other bits.
also a complete sc loom with fuel rail. igniter, crank angle sensor in fact everything except ecu, also there is a complete engine already wired with ecu, big pully, lsd gearbox and the ultra hard to find long drive shaft all removed running and fine, (paul woods's mechanic spotted a very slight blue on cold start up (I never noticed it, but I must mention it to be fair and I think the price reflects this) The only reason I had it removed is because Paul has fitted a V6 (and done a very splendid job.)
I want 1500 pounds for the sc engine/gearbox package
The black top I imported myself because I had some idea of putting a sc on and never had the time, it cost a lot more than the paltry 1100 quid I'm asking for it.
The engines are at Woodsport.
I've not bayed this as yet because not had time but I will.
This may offer you a good choice.
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hmmm and v interested in your black top. I get paid soon and am keeping my options open. Where bouts are you for pick up of engine if I do decided to go that route?
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both engines are at woodsport :thumleft:

Stick a 3sgte in there


Glad i never posted that! :D It is the best route though for big power v cost.
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What an idiot it even says that in the previous message. Will read through properly next time before asking questions that have been answered. DOH.
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Does anyone know if MICROTECH LT-10 TOYOTA 4AGZE SUPERCHARGED TWIN COILS COMPLETE STAND ALONE ECU FUEL & IGNITION systems are any good? tis on ebay - item number 160286923797 if anyone is interested. I e-mailed the seller and he said if I had a 4AGZE with no loom and ECU this would make the engine run ok, as it's a full loom with ECU. Anyone have any experience of these?
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I forgot to say about the SC engine, is that it is a late AE101 MAP version
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Have you seen this.

Click Here

In the for sale section would give you all the extras you need for a Supercharger .

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Oh thanks for info in last two posts.
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Mate,

check on ebay. there are 2 Levins on at the moment at £700-800. Even if you get one for £1200 you can strip it and get some money back on it. might even get some nice alloys. That way you are guaranteed to have everything you need for the conversion.

It is the camry water bottle that need from what i remember.
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Halfway through transaction for Supercharged engine. Thanks to all for the positive feedback i've had. Dare say i'll put another post up after it's done.
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