A few 360 questions

[Spittinflames]

I've got a bit of money sitting in my paypal account and as much as i hate the 360 console for being unreliable there's no denying there are some great games for it.... When i had my old one i really enjoyed forza 2 and GOW.

The console can be had for peanuts now so i wouldnt mind grabbing another one.

I'm not to bothered about going online with it so what system would be best for me?

I've heard of a pack called the arcade pack, whats this?

also the core comes with no hardrive right? Would i need a harddrive if im not going online?

Basically i just want it so when mates come round i can switch it on and have a quick bash at some games.

Are the newer ones more reliable or did microsoft not bother fixing the red light thing.

[matt_mr2t]

The Arcade pack comes with no hard drive, a 256mb memory card and 1 wireless controller.
It now has a proper HDMI output on it too.
I "believe" most games can be played off the 256mb memory card but as you say, no chance of live or downloading anything.

It's only £149.99 on play now

I HEAR they're more reliable, remains to be seen as yet.

[thai boxer]

You need a hard drive to save all your games on mate. Otherwise you can use memory cards, USB sticks or a lead that connects to your PC.

Get an Elite if you can. Best by far and far more reliable. The new gen 360's have changed quite a bit now though so they shouldn't feck up.

[matt_mr2t]

Arcade pack comes with the memory card.
Pro pack comes with 20gb HDD.
Elite comes with 120gb HDD.

Thai - I was under the impression all the internals were the same now?

[thai boxer]

Not sure on the differences between the Premiums and the Elites now. I know the Elites had difference DVD drives, fan units, HD and HDMI of course. Sam will prob know.

The Elites look much better anyway...and are definately quieter.

[matt_mr2t]

My new one is still a bit noisey.

Problem for this guy though is he want a cheap one. Elite is like £280 - £300 compared to £150 - £160 for an arcade console.

[The-Shield]

All the 360's are now of falcon chipset I believe.

[matt_mr2t]

Does that mean they dont die (as easily)

[The-Shield]

Yeah. Unfortunatley the Halo 3 edition 360 I bought wasn't a falcon Never mind, if it goes, MS can replace it.

[Spittinflames]

Thanks guys i'll have a look around see what i can find then post up on here to see what you think.

I'd get a second hand one, but if it feks up thats it, im bolloxed. If they've changed the new ones to make them more reliable then i'll get a brand new one.

[The-Shield]

The Arcade is basically the replacement for the old Core package but with the newer machine.

[SamUK]

Thanks guys i'll have a look around see what i can find then post up on here to see what you think.

I'd get a second hand one, but if it feks up thats it, im bolloxed. If they've changed the new ones to make them more reliable then i'll get a brand new one.

MS have had some many people ring up for the RROD error that they dont ask for many details so even buying a second hand one, you could still get it fixed.

if you shop around you can get GTA and a premium for under £200 so the premium on its own is worth getting.