road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

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mirholly

road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by mirholly »

I am still trying to get answers, our new car is much to low(local speed humps).
Q1 what is the standard road height ie centre of wheel to bottom of arch.
Q2 if it has been dropped then is it just the springs that are shorter.
Q3 has anybody got standard springs they would sell me.
it is a 1994 n/a rev3 t-bar with 15 inch wheels and standard tyres.
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Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

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If its any consolation my 91 N/A on standard springs was 355mm from centre of wheel to top of wheel arch.
front and rear.

Russ
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mirholly

Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by mirholly »

thanks for your reply, it seems I am the only mr2 owner who wants
to return to standed setting.
I will go and check my car now against your details.
they may be the same as yours, in that case I will just have to live with it. =D> ---------phil
Jay

Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by Jay »

2's are low cars as standard, the only other car i look down into is the MX-5 thats even smaller, makes me feel good :P =P~

Jay

PS. speed humps were put in to "protect children from speeding Motorists" could the kids look where there going before they cross the road ? and there mothers can have peace while they play in the road and pester the neighbours :P

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by SwissHeavy »

Mirholly, I'm in the same boat as you! I want to go back to standard too! But £200 for standard springs + fitting is a joke.... u may want to go for Pi springs which are quite cheap and only lower the car 10mm which isn't much and they're about £120....

Peacexx
mirholly

Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by mirholly »

JUST DONE THE MEASURE , IT,S 300MM COMPARED TO STANDARD 350MM.
I RESPECT THE USE OF SPEED HUMPS BUT I HAVE GO OVER SO SLOW
I ALMOST COME TO A STOP.
TWO INCH LOWER RIDE IS OK FOR THE TRACK /MOTORWAY BUT IT MAKES DRIVING IN MY TOWN HARD.
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Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by simmo490 »

think your problem is gonna be that when people lower there cars they tend to throw the old springs awas as like you say not allot of people would want to put the OE springs back on. i know its a ghay idea but you can allways put the ghay spacers in that you would use when towing a caravan, halfords do them quite cheap
mirholly

Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by mirholly »

I might sound daft but I have never thought of putting caravan type
assisters on.
more questions
Q1 how do they work
Q2 are they easy to fit
Q3 how much are they cost
if they are easy to fit and cheap I MIGHT TRY THEM
cbryson

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Post by cbryson »

mirholly wrote:thanks for your reply, it seems I am the only mr2 owner who wants
to return to standed setting.


nope, i have exactly the same problem (council have just intstalled an extra 20+ :shock: speed bumps around here), and want them back to normal, so am watching this post with great interest! :D
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Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by jim »

I tried to put some data together last summer on mk2 ride heights, but had little response (on the old yahoo groups forum).

This is as much info as I was sent at the time.

year UK/JAP model front rear
94 JAP turbo 33.5 35.25
95 JAP anniv (NA) 34.5 35
92 JAP turbo 30.5 29 dropped 40mm

Good luck with getting standard springs. Hope your shocks are standard too.

Jim
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Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by OohMatron »

Hola,

I've been watching this post for a bit mainly from the other angle that
I have a '91 UK n/a that I'd like to drop.

We have some speed bumps around us but I avoid them anyway
because most of the roads they're on are pants.!

So, as far as I'm aware my springs are in perfect working order, I'm
having the car MOT'd Saturday so I can have a good look then.

Would anyone be interested in a swap of some sorts.? I have access to a garage with a 2 post ramp, my other halfs family run a MOT and service
station which might help.?

Stephen
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mirholly

Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by mirholly »

I have been told it,s a full days work to change full set of springs on a mk2, so to swap car to car will take prob two , I would let anybody swap
mine over but be warned mine are very low ( YOU CAN HARDLY GET YOUR HAND BETWEEN ARCH AND TYRE) and what if we hit snags with the
change over. :-k
one last thought toyota spend millions on the car R&D and such why
change the ride of a road car from toyota specs , I would rather trust
toyota to know what they are doing. :D
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Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by OohMatron »

Hi,

With me not being fully clued up on all things suspension, from
what I've read before in previous posts is a 50+mm drop a bit
much for just a spring change? Is there any chance you've got
coilovers? :-k

I can't really imagine it being a full days work to change springs,
I managed to replace my rear calipers in just a morning with the
facilities available to me and some extensive knowledge from the
people that work at the workshop.

I bought a set of rear suspension legs off eBay and stripped them
down to get the calipers off and this gave me a bit of an insight into
the workings of the rear. I can't imagine the fronts being too difficult
either?

I fully agree with your comments on Toyotas R&D, but they would be
designing a car to suit general day to day driving and for mass
production. There are always things that can be 'tweaked' after to alter
certain things, that's the fun of motorsport. :lol:

Is your ride extemely harsh with it sitting that low? Your comment about
being to hardly get your hand between arch and tyre is slightly worrying?

If anyone else can advise that would be great.

Stephen
mirholly

WHAT ELSE IS DONE

Post by mirholly »

thats what I am trying to find out, what else is done when people lower
mr2s is it just the springs or something else ie shocks changed.
the problem is having no data on orignal and knowing what the perspn
who made it lower done.
the one day spring change is what I have been quoted by a local garage
they just said it's a big job to do all four ](*,)
mirholly

not so much a bad ride

Post by mirholly »

the ride is pretty good as I have said before to go over a speed hump
you have to almost stop , with our mk1 you just slow down has is the reason for speed humps ( with the mk2 if you just drive slow you scrape
under the car ) you have to sort of ease over them :clown:
I might just have to live with it but I hate it when VAUXHALL CORSAS are
up your ar$e flashing you to get a move on :evil:
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Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by OohMatron »

The cheaper / quicker way to lower the car is to just change the springs. The kits avialable I've noticed usually drop the car by about 40mm max which is why I mentioned coilovers.

The next option is to fit uprated struts with the springs, but this again only gives a standard drop of about 40mm max.

Coilovers from what I can gather allow you to really drop the height of your car, but in fitting those it has other implications with regards to suspension geometry, you'd find you need adjustable drop links etc etc.

Coilovers usually look completly different from standard suspension setup. The front springs on a standard '2 are usually quite large in diameter where as a coilover will be alot slimmer and the spring looks as it's fits 'over' the damper - someone may correct me here.?

I too with my stock setup take it nice and easy over speed humps and also get miffed when people try and climb in my boot =; but the best bit is when I'm over the last one and the 3mph - 30mph sees them dissapear in my rear view mirror..!! :lol:
motep

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Post by motep »

Ok, I have a 95 Rev3 and have fitted Eibach -35mm springs. The distance from my wheel centre to top of wheel arch is approx 340mm.
In my opinion, the easiest way to check if you have uprated suspension is to jack the car up and take the wheel off. Coilover suspension will be fairly obvious to spot. A spring upgrade may require you to rub any dirt off the spring to see if they're painted (in my experiance they're usually red, yellow or silver) or have any identifying writing on them.
I changed mine and it took me and a friend about 3hrs. You will need spring compressors and you'll need to bleed the brakes after as the brake hose goes through a bracket on the shock absorber. Not a difficult job but fairly time consuming.
I still have my original springs which are in good condition. E-mail me if you're interested in buying them.
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Re: road springs n/a 1994 rev 3

Post by simmo490 »

i have lowered many mr2`s. i myself have a rev 2 n/a lowerd 40mm on spax springs only, i go over many speed humps and bumps and never have a problem, i used to drive a fiesta dropped about 150mm and still got over bumps. if you want any lower than 40mm you are looking at getting a decent set of full adjustable coilovers.

i personally would not lower any lower than 40mm as i think would run the look and make it look sill.

i can change springs on an mr2 max of 2hrs flat. fastest i have done this is 15 mins a corner, so if anyone would like anyhelp i am willing. as for the days work hehe, god knows where u got that info from. dave
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