The GT28 results...yipee...not! :(

[nutter]

I bought it direct from ATS, it cost £1,307.56 including shipping from the states. It cost me £200 to get get it out of customs thou!

[MR2Mania]

I just can't understand why the cc core would be so restrictive I know on a lot of the higher spec air-air intercoolers (pheonix power & turbohoses/spearco) use 3" diameter hardpipes and they claim to flow enough cfm to support 500bhp ! (www.turbohoses.com stage 9)

What's the piping got to do with it? You could have 5ft diameter pipes and it still would still be restrictive if the core was not sized/designed right, which is what I suspect.

[BenF]

1psi 10 10bhp is something i wouldnt be following, what other mods do you have to support the turbo? Just throwing on a turbo and even and ems will not yeild big power.

Graeme

Its a very crude rule of thumb for standard '2s running boost levels slightly above stock.

Once you're +3-4psi over standard boost for your '2 then it won't hold true as the turbo will be running less efficently.

Take a Standard CT-26 for example - at 16 or 17psi it basically turns into a big hairdrier, doing a good job heating the air up (to create boost) rather than compressing the air and keeping it cool (which creates useful power).

Extreme example, but you get the idea - you guys know this anyway

[jonno]

Sorry to hear the results mate, its always depressing after a bad mapping session - i suspect Pete will start dancing for joy when we get to the bottom of the problem!.

I am working with Dino on something that will just replace the Pace core with a custom top mount. We have calculated flow at around 500bhp so far and the first prototypes will be running at the Noble Motorsports dyno day.

By the end of March there WILL be a decent CC available for the MR2 I can gurantee you that!.

Neil.

[Dangerous]

I just can't understand why the cc core would be so restrictive I know on a lot of the higher spec air-air intercoolers (pheonix power & turbohoses/spearco) use 3" diameter hardpipes and they claim to flow enough cfm to support 500bhp ! (www.turbohoses.com stage 9)

What's the piping got to do with it? You could have 5ft diameter pipes and it still would still be restrictive if the core was not sized/designed right, which is what I suspect.

Yes I realize that but wouldn't larger piping flow more air .....?
one thing I have noticed with my pace cc is that the piping is a lot smaller in diameter than the throttle body inlet... surley this must not help....... after all early revision cars even have an option of buying a bigger throttle body inlet (people cliaming that this is a restriction) would this not be the same kinda thing......

[Mikejc]

Myself and the good chaps over at Roque Systems, (namely Patrick & Matt) are working together to find out what problems the Pace c/c is posing if any and if so a solution will follow

Mikejc

[Rogue]

Have you spoken to rogues? When i ordered my kit they said that there wasn't a problem with the kits. Surely they wouldn't tell porkies???

No, we don't tell porkies! I was actually with Mike at Thor when they dyno tested his car so I'm at the sharp end of this issue.

We'll be investigating more fully over the next week and hopefully confirming whether or not the Pace chargecooler core becomes a restriction over a certain point. If it does then we will provide a solution.

Best regards,

Patrick Mortell
Rogue Systems Limited
02476 226677

[nutter]

Thats what i like. Customer service . Keep me posted please Patrick!

[Dangerous]

[cmr2payne]

good service as usuall.