Hid mot worry

Discussion and technical advice the SW20 MR2. 3S-GTE, 3S-GE, 3S-FE etc
Anything and everything to do with maintenance, modifications and electrical is in here for the Mk2.

Moderators: IMOC Moderators, IMOC Committee Members

Post Reply
azznwab
Posts: 47
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:10 am
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, midlands

Hid mot worry

Post by azznwab »

Hi guys mot time and panic is on, my rev3 turbo is my daily and mot is up on the 19th june. The previous owner had hid and raybirgs fitted and there is no high beam indicator on dash. I just want quickest easiest ( maybe even bodge job) job to get me through the mot this time as we are moving house and my time needs to be payed elsewhere. I have old lenses but not sure if i am missing any loom to convert back to standard setup. Any help much appreciated. Once mot done i may revert back
Martin F
IMOC Moderator
Posts: 14830
Joined: Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:19 pm
Location: The Couch !

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by Martin F »

If there is no high beam indicator on the dash then it is likely a bulb, won't have anything to do with the uprated headlights, easy to remove and cheap as chips to buy a new bulb.

Easy test is to remove the speedo unit and use another bulb to see if that works :thumleft:

p.s. Is not having a high beam indicator even a fail ? :-k
Essex2Visuvesi
Posts: 261
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:46 pm
Location: Witham, Essex

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by Essex2Visuvesi »

Martin F wrote:If there is no high beam indicator on the dash then it is likely a bulb, won't have anything to do with the uprated headlights, easy to remove and cheap as chips to buy a new bulb.

Easy test is to remove the speedo unit and use another bulb to see if that works :thumleft:

p.s. Is not having a high beam indicator even a fail ? :-k


Yes it is

Here's what the VOSA mot tester's manual says:

With the headlamps on, switch between dipped and main beams checking that:
a. each headlamp illuminates immediately it is switched to either dipped or main beam
b. either: · all main beams are switched off by one switch (dip switch) leaving a matched pair of dipped-beams switched on, or · the main beam headlamp reflectors are deflected by a driver’s control, to make them dipped beams
c. on vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1986, the ‘tell-tale’ illuminates when main beam is selected

I've seen cars scrapped because the labour involved in changing the bulb can run into 100's depending on the car
Martin F
IMOC Moderator
Posts: 14830
Joined: Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:19 pm
Location: The Couch !

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by Martin F »

Essex2Visuvesi wrote:
Martin F wrote:If there is no high beam indicator on the dash then it is likely a bulb, won't have anything to do with the uprated headlights, easy to remove and cheap as chips to buy a new bulb.

Easy test is to remove the speedo unit and use another bulb to see if that works :thumleft:

p.s. Is not having a high beam indicator even a fail ? :-k


Yes it is
I've seen cars scrapped because the labour involved in changing the bulb can run into 100's depending on the car


Lucky checking and changing the bulb in an mr2 is an easy diy job then :wink:
aussieGT
Posts: 1249
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:17 am
Location: Staffs/Stoke

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by aussieGT »

Martin F wrote:If there is no high beam indicator on the dash then it is likely a bulb, won't have anything to do with the uprated headlights, easy to remove and cheap as chips to buy a new bulb.

Easy test is to remove the speedo unit and use another bulb to see if that works :thumleft:

p.s. Is not having a high beam indicator even a fail ? :-k


It won't be the high beam bulb indicator that had failed. I had Raybrig Hid's installed as well - I think due to the unusual way the Raybrig actually tilts its bulb/reflector position it doesn't trigger the high beam indicator the way the factory setup would.
azznwab
Posts: 47
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:10 am
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, midlands

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by azznwab »

Does anybody know what in entailed in reverting back to standard
alanmr2turbo
Posts: 2238
Joined: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:08 pm
Location: Birmingham
Contact:

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by alanmr2turbo »

Martin F wrote:If there is no high beam indicator on the dash then it is likely a bulb, won't have anything to do with the uprated headlights


You will find it actually does. When i fitted HID's and went to switch to main beam the main beam light on dash never worked.
Mullen
Posts: 726
Joined: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:26 pm
Location: Bristol

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by Mullen »

azznwab wrote:Does anybody know what in entailed in reverting back to standard


It will depend what, if anything, they've done to the loom.

In an ideal world when you remove the lenses you'll find the standard H4 connector still there and working.

If not I imagine you'll have to wire them back in.

Disclaimer: I have no idea what the wiring/power set up for raybrigs is just thinking out loud as I've been putting standard lights back on my turbo this week.
azznwab
Posts: 47
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:10 am
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, midlands

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by azznwab »

Thanks for that info, i was looking in the frunk for the h4 connecters. I Will get on it after i replace front wheel studs for longer ones, tonight hopefully #-o

Cheers :thumleft:
aussieGT
Posts: 1249
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:17 am
Location: Staffs/Stoke

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by aussieGT »

Mullen wrote:
azznwab wrote:Does anybody know what in entailed in reverting back to standard


It will depend what, if anything, they've done to the loom.

In an ideal world when you remove the lenses you'll find the standard H4 connector still there and working.

If not I imagine you'll have to wire them back in.

Disclaimer: I have no idea what the wiring/power set up for raybrigs is just thinking out loud as I've been putting standard lights back on my turbo this week.


I had an auto electrician install mine, it involved installing ballasts and a fair bit of rewiring. So I can't imagine retrofitting the factory ones in will be a simple task.
shinny
Posts: 2345
Joined: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:59 pm
Location: Reading, UK

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by shinny »

OK let's get a few things straight:

1) H4 HIds are bi-xenons (ie. one burner and a solenoid that moves a shield to give hi/lo beam). This screws up the way the high beam indicator works in MR2s meaning you've got some not 100% trivial wiring to do to get it working again.
2) Inoperative high beam indicator is technically an MOT fail
3) Retrofit HIDs without self levelling or washers are technically an MOT fail
4) I had exactly your setup on my MR2 for years (from previous owner) and never actually had a problem with them on MOT.

Unless the person who installed the HIDs was a muppet, removing them shouldn't be too tricky. it was a doddle on mine! It should be as simple as stripping out the HID kit and reconnecting the H4 connector to your new halogen bulbs. But before you start, just make sure the installer didn't cut off the original H4 plugs.
azznwab
Posts: 47
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:10 am
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, midlands

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by azznwab »

Well thanks for again for info i will get on it tomorrow weather permitting
Martin F
IMOC Moderator
Posts: 14830
Joined: Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:19 pm
Location: The Couch !

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by Martin F »

alanmr2turbo wrote:
Martin F wrote:If there is no high beam indicator on the dash then it is likely a bulb, won't have anything to do with the uprated headlights


You will find it actually does. When i fitted HID's and went to switch to main beam the main beam light on dash never worked.



Sorry, I misread the post and thought he just had the upreated headlights with standard bulbs and was just experiencing the full blue full beam light not coming on in the dash, if talking about different bulbs I am pretty much clueless, sorry :oops:
azznwab
Posts: 47
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:10 am
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, midlands

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by azznwab »

Hi all thanks for help, luckily i had original h4 bulb connecters behind headlight units. Just a matter of unplugging hid ballasts, tapping up, and fit original headlights and plug and play \:D/
O and mot pass \:D/ \:D/ \:D/
Cheers
shinny
Posts: 2345
Joined: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:59 pm
Location: Reading, UK

Re: Hid mot worry

Post by shinny »

azznwab wrote:Hi all thanks for help, luckily i had original h4 bulb connecters behind headlight units. Just a matter of unplugging hid ballasts, tapping up, and fit original headlights and plug and play \:D/
O and mot pass \:D/ \:D/ \:D/
Cheers


Winner :thumleft:
Post Reply

Return to “MR2 MK2 1990 - 1999 NA & Turbo”