Car won't fire with blitz access ecu

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Wisey91
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Car won't fire with blitz access ecu

Post by Wisey91 »

As per title really. Sold a Rev 2 blitz access ecu to someone and I got a message today saying that with it fitted the car won't start. It will crank over but not start. Is there anything that could be stopping his car from starting with this fitted or is it down to a duff ecu?
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Re: Car won't fire with blitz access ecu

Post by markstevieandmads »

Did not start with his old ECU?
Wondering if he bought it not knowing what the fault with his car was thinking it was ECU but its not.
also could have disturbed a wire or two when swapping it in.

Did it work with u?
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His car is definitely a Rev 2?

If his works with a std/known good ECU and doesn't with yours then the ECU needs checking, it could be a burst capacitor, burnt track etc..
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Wisey91
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Re: Car won't fire with blitz access ecu

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The car starts and runs with his standard ecu but didn't when he plugged in the blitz. I don't know if his car starts or runs when he plugged his standard one back in as haven't heard back from him yet. As for it working for me, it's the wrong one for my car so never fitted it so I don't know. However, it was sold to me as 'good working condition'.
As far as he's aware it is a Rev 2. I have asked him if he knows anyone else with a Rev 2 turbo to try it on there before sending it back to me.
Are popped capacitors/burnt tracks expensive to repair/replace?
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you'd need to send it to a specialist ECU/electronics testing/repair place to be checked, worst case scenario is that it's scrap. there is/was a guy on here "jon" I think is his screen name that does (or did) some repairs for other people. The capacitors themselves are pennies, if that's what the problem is.. however it could be any component on the board, even the ROM chips themselves

tbh though, if I was the buyer I would be sending it back for a refund.. it may be that you need to give him his money back, get it tested/repaired and see if you can re-sell it
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Any good recommendations for an ecu specialist tester/repairer? Hopefully it's not scrap as it means I got screwed by a fellow member....not cool.
That is exactly what I'm doing, I'm giving him a full refund and paying for the return postage. It's just annoying that it's caused hassle to someone else. Also annoying that I paid good money for something that doesn't work!
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Wisey91 wrote:Any good recommendations for an ecu specialist tester/repairer? Hopefully it's not scrap as it means I got screwed by a fellow member....not cool.
That is exactly what I'm doing, I'm giving him a full refund and paying for the return postage. It's just annoying that it's caused hassle to someone else. Also annoying that I paid good money for something that doesn't work!


if you paid via paypal and it was less than 60 days ago then lodge a paypal claim, don't waste your own money trying to get it fixed
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Rob - East Coast Imports wrote:
Wisey91 wrote:Any good recommendations for an ecu specialist tester/repairer? Hopefully it's not scrap as it means I got screwed by a fellow member....not cool.
That is exactly what I'm doing, I'm giving him a full refund and paying for the return postage. It's just annoying that it's caused hassle to someone else. Also annoying that I paid good money for something that doesn't work!


if you paid via paypal and it was less than 60 days ago then lodge a paypal claim, don't waste your own money trying to get it fixed


I bought a pfc from ebay for £440 plus post, when I tested it there was nothing (dud)....

The seller was a sh** head, I claimed with paypal and they said the onus was on me to prove it was faulty.... ](*,)

Eventually they told me to send it back, I sent it through Parcelforce and according to their tracking system it never left the averdeen hub #-o

I never got a refund and Parcelforce only compensated me £150 as it was up to me to ask for extra insurance coverage ](*,) , that was around 8 years ago,

ironically it turned out the other two bidders were regular users of this forum, anyone of us could have been the victim.....

At least the OP has done the right thing, asked for advice and paid for the return, well done :clap: :clap:

Good Karma will be a blown capacitor :wink:
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I did pay via PayPal but unfortunately I bought I back in august so I'm not covered on it so that's outta the window. When it returns I will open it up and look at the board to see if there is anything visible and then send it off. At least that way I may get some money back off it. Out of interest is there anyone around the Hereford area with a Rev 2 turbo that would be willing to try it on their car to confirm it is a dud before I send it off?
That is quite unfortunate Martin and sounds like it was a right pain in the a... It sucks that there are people like that out there. I'm not one to mess someone about which is why I've tried to rectify the problem and am more than happy to refund the guy
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Wisey91 wrote:I did pay via PayPal but unfortunately I bought I back in august so I'm not covered on it so that's outta the window. When it returns I will open it up and look at the board to see if there is anything visible and then send it off. At least that way I may get some money back off it. Out of interest is there anyone around the Hereford area with a Rev 2 turbo that would be willing to try it on their car to confirm it is a dud before I send it off?
That is quite unfortunate Martin and sounds like it was a right pain in the a... It sucks that there are people like that out there. I'm not one to mess someone about which is why I've tried to rectify the problem and am more than happy to refund the guy


Who did you buy it off ? are they a regular user ? did they have it running ever I wonder :-k , maybe send them a pm for their side, could be another issue with compatibility with whoever you sold it too, not a total loss as of yet :wink:
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http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=186500

seller claims to have never used it either...
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Rob - East Coast Imports wrote:http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=186500

seller claims to have never used it either...


Sounds great. Removes safety devices Toyota put into their ECU, brilliant device.
No 2 :(
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Rob - East Coast Imports wrote:
if you paid via paypal and it was less than 60 days ago then lodge a paypal claim, don't waste your own money trying to get it fixed

Paypal claim period is 180 days now, although if the payment was a 'gift' then there is no 'protection'.

On that note to anyone reading, as obvious as it sounds never gift payments to someone you don't know, cough up the extra 4.7% (or whatever it is now) in fee's so you are covered.
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If the seller did not disclose at time of sale that it was untested and could not prove that it was working or not, then they should refund you.
Drop them a pm and try to sort out in a cordial manner, if they dont want to play ball Name and shame them.
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Post by androo007 »

The previous seller was in the link above. .... no need to name......

Thing is if you bought and the sold on really it falls back to you. If it didn't work for you then go back to mr2turbo guy - but as you then had it didn't use it for 4 months then sold on you can hardly expect any money back. Anything could happen in that time and I wouldn't expect to give money back to someone that time later. Sorry.
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Ah yeah, didnt know you've had it 4mths without using it, must have missed that.
Nope Me 2 I'm afraid, i wouldnt refund 4mths after selling.

On another note, if you want your ecu repairing I would be more than happy to look at it for blown caps but wouldnt really want to start messing with replacing Ic's if they are the minature surface mount type.

Regular sized chips ok, but would you be able to get the IC's I wonder? :-k
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Re: Car won't fire with blitz access ecu

Post by jimGTS »

Sure the ecu isn't for a rev1??

Rev1 and rev2 ecu pinouts are different.

Could explain why car doesn't start??
Something else to consider anyways.
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Re: Car won't fire with blitz access ecu

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That's the problem, it had been wrapped up in the box it came in for around 4 months without being used and for that reason I agree with what you're saying androo which is why I want to try and get it repaired if possible to recover some costs.

Masterbateson - if you're happy to have a look/repair it for a few bob that's fine with me.

I don't know jim, was just going off what it was sold to me as which is apparently a rev 2. I will have to have a look at it when it comes back. Also would the part number on it specify what rev the car is for?
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I've just had a look on goog map to see where you are.

There's a place called Trumpet :clap: better still a place called suckley :clap:

But Best of all..... a place called Three C0cks! :lol:

Fantastic.

If you were to post ecu up I would be happy to throw it on my car for a try, anyone near me with a Rev1?
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Haha, three c0cks...thats over by hay-on-wye. There is a road called canal road in hereford city center and the c on the road sign is forever being spray painted over in white, makes me chuckle when I see it.

If you pm me your address and stuff I will get it sent up to you. I know of about 12 mk2 mr2s in hereford, annoyingly all of them being non turbos and most of them being rev1/2. The only turbo I knew of here was a rev 5 cosmos blue one that blew its engine after the lad that owned it was bouncing it off the limiter in 5th for however many miles on the motorway ](*,)
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