rogue revision 6 headlights

[juliankv73]

Hi guys

I've tried the search function but can't find d any info lol

For those who own rogue quad head lights, what bulbs do you use and what are the sizes lol? Ive seen H4??

We bought some used and had them fitted but the dipped beams are blown

Looks like the previous owner of the lights fitted a small LED in the bottom of the headlight unit

I'd like to replace all the bulbs with decent ones but on using the search I can't find any reference to the bulb sizes, ratings etc

Amy suggestions? And where to get them...if you could pm me or reply with links that would be great

Also, anyone have a link to the rogue instruction manual??

Cheers julian

[Odin_S]

H7 only. That small light at the bottom is just a LED bulb that comes on with main beam. I personally took mine out because I'm running HIDs

[Odin_S]

Google rev 6 rogue headlights. It will come up as a PDF as one of the results. Just to be clear that LED is a standard fitting

[shinny]

As I said on PM:
The units take H7 bulbs... I use Osram Nightbreakers in mine. The main beam unit can also take a 501 sidelight bulb in and I think I used a pair of Philips Blue Vision 501s in there to get the colour match about right.



The LEDs are an odd one... I thought the general advice was not to use LEDs in the same housing as a halogen headlight, due to heat. Hence why I have filament 501s in mine.

[juliankv73]

As I said on PM:
The units take H7 bulbs... I use Osram Nightbreakers in mine. The main beam unit can also take a 501 sidelight bulb in and I think I used a pair of Philips Blue Vision 501s in there to get the colour match about right.



The LEDs are an odd one... I thought the general advice was not to use LEDs in the same housing as a halogen headlight, due to heat. Hence why I have filament 501s in mine.

Thanks Guys, just ordered mine now

Found a book mark in my emails for the PDF just in case anyone else needs it

http://www.mr2club.ru/tech/files/headlampkit.doc

[Nic]

The LEDs are an odd one... I thought the general advice was not to use LEDs in the same housing as a halogen headlight, due to heat. Hence why I have filament 501s in mine.

I've been running with LED's and halogen bulbs for 3 years in the quad headlights without any problems.

I've recently bought a set of these LED headlight bulbs to test, found that the back of the headlight housing needs filing out a little so they'll fit. I've already tested them against the Osram Nightbreakers and the light emitted is significantly brighter, hopefully get them fitted at the weekend to get a true test of how they compare.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2X-36W-Cree-C ... 20f843b823

[SonicSW20]

Those LED headlights are not road legal in the UK, and you shouldn't use them in a unit not designed for them anyway due to differences in light output.

[shinny]

I've recently bought a set of these LED headlight bulbs to test, found that the back of the headlight housing needs filing out a little so they'll fit. I've already tested them against the Osram Nightbreakers and the light emitted is significantly brighter, hopefully get them fitted at the weekend to get a true test of how they compare.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2X-36W-Cree-C ... 20f843b823

Interesting... I'd like to see the cutoff pattern on the LEDs vs a proper halogen bulb. I'd expect the LED version won't be as crisp; tt could be absolutely dire, but that will vary from housing to housing.

[SonicSW20]

Interesting... I'd like to see the cutoff pattern on the LEDs vs a proper halogen bulb. I'd expect the LED version won't be as crisp; tt could be absolutely dire, but that will vary from housing to housing.

I've seen a couple of examples of LED headlights from US owners on Facebook, one was in a stock housing which was obviously awful. The other was in a 7x6(?) projector aftermarket unit, that was awful too. Crap beam pattern, lots of glare.

[Torero]

I've exactly th same set up as Mark (Shinny) namely Nightbreakers and Blue Vision and filament H7s but the filaments are an awful yellowish colour compared to the others.

I'd happily switch to a warm white LED but on my very first MOT they flagged it as a fail they said the light was 'blue' and that was illegal . It wasn't blue but ice white and I've stuck with filament ever since.

I might try Odins option and go HID but I am very happy with the current main and full beam set up.

[shinny]

I've exactly th same set up as Mark (Shinny) namely Nightbreakers and Blue Vision and filament H7s but the filaments are an awful yellowish colour compared to the others.

Eh? I've not no issues with colour match at all...



There you have see the Philips Blue Vision 501 as the sidelight in the inner main beam housing, the Osram Nightbreaker H7 in the outer dipped beam housing (there is one in the main beam too, but it's not lit) and a 9x5050 warm white LED 501 bulb in the sidelight. They look like a perfect match to me and are certainly less yellow that standard halogens. BUT, if I stuck a normal white LED bulb in the sidelight it would certainly look blue by comparison.

[Odin_S]

Very nice Shinny, however i only got Rogue lights so i could use HIDs. The difference is so clear 6000k only and you're laughing. Of course make sure they are lined up correctly.

My setup is slightly different to yours, in that i have outer only lighting up and inner for high beam.

[shinny]

Very nice Shinny, however i only got Rogue lights so i could use HIDs. The difference is so clear 6000k only and you're laughing. Of course make sure they are lined up correctly.

My setup is slightly different to yours, in that i have outer only lighting up and inner for high beam.

6000k is definitely blue... about 4500k is actually a more balanced white and provides the best visibility, which is why OEMs use it. 6000k just looks a bit cheap IMHO, which is not helped by the fact that lots of those blinding retrofits in reflector housings seem to use 6000k bulbs.

However, many OEMs don't use HIDs for main beam because they don't flash very well... an always on (ie. doesn't switch off with main beam) HID dipped beam in a projector lens and a halogen main beam is often preferred.

[Odin_S]

Well, turning mine on, they are white. Had them in for years 8000k is when you start getting into blue and losing clarity.

I'll need to get a picture

[shinny]

Well, turning mine on, they are white. Had them in for years 8000k is when you start getting into blue and losing clarity.

I'll need to get a picture

I drove with 6000k HIDs for 3 years... I know very well that they're blue! Not very blue... a pretty cold white, maybe, but there's still blue in there. And, as I said, 4300k-5000k is more "white", more efficient and provide better visibility. That's why OEMs use that range

[shinny]

[tiff_lee]

The other was in a 7x6(?) projector aftermarket unit, that was awful too. Crap beam pattern, lots of glare.

Yeah alot of those aftermarket 'projector headlights' dont have a projector at all just a crappy optic in there, like these

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HID-COMPATIB ... 2a5474ac2e

this one is even worse as the reflector bowl is blackm the light output must be complete garbage on that one
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HID-COMPATIB ... 2a5477687c