Hi chaps
Have been using castrol magnatec 10w/40 in my rev 3 turbo but at tesco they are selling it half price ...... £6 for 2 litres - bargain!
Before I go and snap a load up, is it considered a poor / unwise oil choice?
Cheers
turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
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Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
You should be using a fully synthetic oil, magnatec is part synth.
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
You can get fully synthetic Castrol Edge for £30-35/4L from eurocarparts, not sure why you'd wanna use Castrol GTX...
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
Because
A) Toyota specified oil is 10w/40
B) 2 MR2 specialists have both recommended semi 10w/40
C) £12 for 4 litres is less than £35.
The engine was designed in the 80's - semi synth let alone fully wasn't even around then - so in my eyes I don't quite see the point. I don't rag the car, its standard (pretty much) and never sees a track or strip. I change the oil every 2-3k miles, which in my opinion is the most important factor here.
A) Toyota specified oil is 10w/40
B) 2 MR2 specialists have both recommended semi 10w/40
C) £12 for 4 litres is less than £35.
The engine was designed in the 80's - semi synth let alone fully wasn't even around then - so in my eyes I don't quite see the point. I don't rag the car, its standard (pretty much) and never sees a track or strip. I change the oil every 2-3k miles, which in my opinion is the most important factor here.
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
Well if it helps I use Mobil 1 10w-40 and have been using since I got my turbo in '08. I do change my oil every 4 months though.
I prefer to change my oil more than keep full synthetic and keep it for a year.
I am however getting my car back after an engine forged rebuild, so unsure on a higher powered engine.
I prefer to change my oil more than keep full synthetic and keep it for a year.
I am however getting my car back after an engine forged rebuild, so unsure on a higher powered engine.
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
Semi is fine, just change it more frequently like many others do.
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
Odin_S wrote:Well if it helps I use Mobil 1 10w-40 and have been using since I got my turbo in '08. I do change my oil every 4 months though.
I prefer to change my oil more than keep full synthetic and keep it for a year.
I am however getting my car back after an engine forged rebuild, so unsure on a higher powered engine.
You probably already know. Be sure it gets running in oil (for beddings engine in) and no ya mobile 1 stuff until later!
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jimGTS wrote:Odin_S wrote:Well if it helps I use Mobil 1 10w-40 and have been using since I got my turbo in '08. I do change my oil every 4 months though.
I prefer to change my oil more than keep full synthetic and keep it for a year.
I am however getting my car back after an engine forged rebuild, so unsure on a higher powered engine.
You probably already know. Be sure it gets running in oil (for beddings engine in) and no ya mobile 1 stuff until later!
How long must I bed the engine? 1000 miles? Luke is running in the engine before giving it to me.
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
Where's Luke going to find the time to bed the engine in for 1000miles? You could be waiting a long while.
Some say it's bed in after 20mins of running, some say 100miles, some 500, or 1000. 80% is probably bed in within first few miles IMO.
I imagine luke won't be going anywhere near 1000miles for sure.
I'm sure has been discussed before and he mentioned putting it under load and boost straight away which IMO is the way to go. Not too much revs and low boost mind you. I would go at least 500miles, 5k rev limit and like 10psi with 2/3 oil/filter changes of running in oil.
Everyone has there own way though for mileage, as long as load and boost is used. None of this keep it below 3k rpm and no boost nonsense, you won't bed in anything that way.
Some say it's bed in after 20mins of running, some say 100miles, some 500, or 1000. 80% is probably bed in within first few miles IMO.
I imagine luke won't be going anywhere near 1000miles for sure.
I'm sure has been discussed before and he mentioned putting it under load and boost straight away which IMO is the way to go. Not too much revs and low boost mind you. I would go at least 500miles, 5k rev limit and like 10psi with 2/3 oil/filter changes of running in oil.
Everyone has there own way though for mileage, as long as load and boost is used. None of this keep it below 3k rpm and no boost nonsense, you won't bed in anything that way.
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
Martin F wrote:You should be using a fully synthetic oil, magnatec is part synth.
Most oils that state 'fully synthetic' aren't really fully synth anyway!
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
From my experience a magnetic sump plug also did it's job on a rebuilt engine.
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Cool - But my main question was for the rear ester geeks among us - the actual quality of the oil GTX vs Magnantec - is it bad? Has anyone else used it?
I mean, to be honest I'm flapping about nothing. Halfords oil is just Comma - and lots of people use that. I change it v regulary with genuine Mr T filters, so I should be OK.
For you bargain hunters out there then - get to tesco!
I mean, to be honest I'm flapping about nothing. Halfords oil is just Comma - and lots of people use that. I change it v regulary with genuine Mr T filters, so I should be OK.
For you bargain hunters out there then - get to tesco!
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
jimGTS wrote:Odin_S wrote:Well if it helps I use Mobil 1 10w-40 and have been using since I got my turbo in '08. I do change my oil every 4 months though.
I prefer to change my oil more than keep full synthetic and keep it for a year.
I am however getting my car back after an engine forged rebuild, so unsure on a higher powered engine.
You probably already know. Be sure it gets running in oil (for beddings engine in) and no ya mobile 1 stuff until later!
How long must I bed the engine? 1000 miles? Luke is running in the engine before giving it to me.
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
Never work the engine hard until it's warmed up.
Do not drive on the motorway for the first 200 miles. Drive on A roads, overtake cars as normal and have fun.
Drive on A roads if possible for the first 600 miles. Check the oil!
Do not drive on the motorway for the first 200 miles. Drive on A roads, overtake cars as normal and have fun.
Drive on A roads if possible for the first 600 miles. Check the oil!
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Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
Odin_S wrote:jimGTS wrote:Odin_S wrote:Well if it helps I use Mobil 1 10w-40 and have been using since I got my turbo in '08. I do change my oil every 4 months though.
I prefer to change my oil more than keep full synthetic and keep it for a year.
I am however getting my car back after an engine forged rebuild, so unsure on a higher powered engine.
You probably already know. Be sure it gets running in oil (for beddings engine in) and no ya mobile 1 stuff until later!
How long must I bed the engine? 1000 miles? Luke is running in the engine before giving it to me.
Everyone has their own thoughts on running in.
If new rings have been fitted they need to bed in with the freshly honed bores.
So ordinary mineral oil only - no synthetic, semi-synthetic etc.
Drive it normally, using plenty of boost but limit revs to 5000rpm. Don't cruise at same rpm and don't use engine for braking.
Then change oil for synthetic and filer aty 500 miles.
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So Peter, whats your opinion on oil / grades to use?
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:Odin_S wrote:jimGTS wrote:
You probably already know. Be sure it gets running in oil (for beddings engine in) and no ya mobile 1 stuff until later!
How long must I bed the engine? 1000 miles? Luke is running in the engine before giving it to me.
Everyone has their own thoughts on running in.
If new rings have been fitted they need to bed in with the freshly honed bores.
So ordinary mineral oil only - no synthetic, semi-synthetic etc.
Drive it normally, using plenty of boost but limit revs to 5000rpm. Don't cruise at same rpm and don't use engine for braking.
Then change oil for synthetic and filer aty 500 miles.
And after 500-1000 miles? Do I have to stick to full synthetic? I prefer to change oil more often
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
I've been using toyota's i think semi synthetic for years (dont do that many miles) .. no problems
Change regularly
Change regularly
Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:Odin_S wrote:jimGTS wrote:
You probably already know. Be sure it gets running in oil (for beddings engine in) and no ya mobile 1 stuff until later!
How long must I bed the engine? 1000 miles? Luke is running in the engine before giving it to me.
Everyone has their own thoughts on running in.
If new rings have been fitted they need to bed in with the freshly honed bores.
So ordinary mineral oil only - no synthetic, semi-synthetic etc.
Drive it normally, using plenty of boost but limit revs to 5000rpm. Don't cruise at same rpm and don't use engine for braking.
Then change oil for synthetic and filer aty 500 miles.
Why not use engine braking, pretty much everything I have ever read about running in an engine says engine braking is beneficial....
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Re: turbo - castrol GTX 10w/40 users?
Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote: don't use engine for braking.
Surprised to hear you say that Peter, one of the uniform pieces of running advice I've been given is to snap the throttle shut at the top of your chosen rev range and let the engine run down the revs with no throttle applied