[Mk2] [Generic] Gaz's low rise quad headlights

[gazrev1tubby]

Well, I guess it was only a matter of time, before I got bored and started making something

After sucessfully building my low rise headlights, I thought i'd have a bash at true quads. After scouring the net for an age, I finally found lenses that would be suitable, although I only have one at the moment

They're 100mm and h4 fitment, meaning all four will light up with dipped and main beam - something I always felt the rogue units lacked. Also, they're E-marked, so should have no problems at m.o.t time

I'm not sure whether they're definitely going to work yet, although i've broken the back of the build, so here's a few very rough mock up pics:

The towel is to give an idea of the height. The lense should sit at bumper height





Wrapped the shroud in a bit of old black vinyl, to give a better idea of the finished look:

[Peter Gidden]

They're 100mm and h4 fitment, meaning all four will light up with dipped and main beam - something I always felt the rogue units lacked.

Any H4 circuit on any car will only ever illuminate either dip or main.

The Rogue lights did work as true quads with mods to the headlamp wiring. Both of my MR2s have had true quad Rogue lights.

You'll still have to rewire if you want mains and dips at same time.

[gazrev1tubby]

What I mean Pete, is that all four will light up when dipped beam is on, and all four will switch to main beam when the main beam is required. Obviously all four lenses will have twin filament bulbs

[Peter Gidden]

What I mean Pete, is that all four will light up when dipped beam is on, and all four will switch to main beam when the main beam is required. Obviously all four lenses will have twin filament bulbs

Ummmmm, OK.

[shinny]

They're 100mm and h4 fitment, meaning all four will light up with dipped and main beam - something I always felt the rogue units lacked.

Any H4 circuit on any car will only ever illuminate either dip or main.

The Rogue lights did work as true quads with mods to the headlamp wiring. Both of my MR2s have had true quad Rogue lights.

As does my rev3 tubby

I can see where Gaz is coming from though, as the Rogue units don't make a perfect pair visually even when wired up as quads.

[Peter Gidden]

as the Rogue units don't make a perfect pair visually even when wired up as quads.

I don't understand.. Explain please.

[shinny]

as the Rogue units don't make a perfect pair visually even when wired up as quads.

I don't understand.. Explain please.

Just look at the light units:



The dipped and main beams are clearly constructed pretty differently and consequently will look pretty different when lit. Here's my car with both the dipped and main beams lit up - note how the projectors light up a smaller area:



I do love my rogues and they're a pleasure to drive with at night - better than either Rayrigs with HIDs or standard lenses. However I've looking forward to seeing Gaz's work on this and aesthetically these may look stonking

[Peter Gidden]

The dipped and main beams are clearly constructed pretty differently and consequently will look pretty different when lit.

Errrr, well of course they do!!!!!!

As do just about every single car on the road nowadays!!!

Hella, being an odd little company that think they know a bit about automotive lighting, decided after years of research, that the best foreground lighting comes from a projector with a cut-off shield.

And that the best long distance lighting comes from a FFR (free form reflector). So Patrick, like Noble, TVR and others, chose to use the best for each job.

Back in the factories of Bosch, Valeo, Stanley, Philips, and probably others, their tefal-heads were finding the same results... And had manufacturers queueing up for lighting units for their cars.

Hence just about every new quality car built in the last 7-10 years has projector dip beams and FFR main beams.

Meanwhile, in the paddy fields...

[shinny]

I'm not arguing Peter and of course I see why the Hellas are built that way. I'm just saying I understand Gaz's aesthetic reservations but I'm sticking firmly with my Rogues!

[HighwayStar]

Snap. Very happy with my Rogues but I'd also like to see what can be done with individual invention and skill. How easy is the rogue 4 light wiring mod by the way Peter?

R.

[shinny]

Snap. Very happy with my Rogues but I'd also like to see what can be done with individual invention and skill. How easy is the rogue 4 light wiring mod by the way Peter?

R.

For the sake of not entirely hijacking Gaz's thread, you can find instructions for what i did here: http://www.mr2oc.co.uk/forums/58/153205.html?p=1608520

(If you don't have membership on MR2OC then PM me and we'll start a new thread)

[asdrewq]

Snap. Very happy with my Rogues but I'd also like to see what can be done with individual invention and skill. How easy is the rogue 4 light wiring mod by the way Peter?

R.

For the sake of not entirely hijacking Gaz's thread, you can find instructions for what i did here: http://www.mr2oc.co.uk/forums/58/153205.html?p=1608520

(If you don't have membership on MR2OC then PM me and we'll start a new thread)

I would be interested in what you did too Shinny, but I don't have auth to view that link. It's been on my todo list for a while now.

Gaz - are those shrouds you are using the rogue ones or did you fabricate them yourself?

[gazrev1tubby]

Gaz - are those shrouds you are using the rogue ones or did you fabricate them yourself?

Making them myself bud

[asdrewq]

Gaz - are those shrouds you are using the rogue ones or did you fabricate them yourself?

Making them myself bud

They look really good. Did you modify them from the stock plastic surrounds?

Everytime I have tried to do something similar with fiberglass or filler it has always looked 100% awful

[Dick Dastardly]

They look like the lenses out of Motorcycle 'dominator' headlamp conversion kits, going by the hole for a sidelight bulb.
A friend had a set of these on his 1250 Bandit, and always complained about how awful the beam pattern was, even though they were 'E' marked.

I always wondered what an MR2 would look like with a round headlamp conversion, like the older MX5's had....

[HighwayStar]

.... you've never seen the Rogue units on a 2 before? They're not that uncommon nowadays.

[shinny]

I would be interested in what you did too Shinny, but I don't have auth to view that link. It's been on my todo list for a while now.

Here you go: http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=167468