F 800 EAM - any update/news?

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F 800 EAM - any update/news?

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As per the title . .

'just wondered if anyone knew what had happened to it, where it had gone and if it had been used in anger over the past year or so? I was told it was to be used in hillclimbs and sprints but haven't found anything by searching on results etc.

I'd be grateful for any info. - still miss that car despite it costing me so much (more than money!)
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It was being used in TSS last year. Midway through the season the new owner started on a 4AGTE conversion and I've seen nothing of it since.

Managed to get a quick drive in it at Barkston Heath, the brakes were phenominal although the balance was way off, was locking the fronts at the lightest touch of the pedal.
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Wasn't it spotted at Rogue, parked up next to Toni's Stripey ?
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Thanks for the replies - hope more will come?

The brakes were the most powerful I've ever had (AP, Stoptech etc) but as they were front only you're right, they did need care especially in the wet.

I got used to them and so could trust them enough to outbrake many a pukka race car at places like Donington and reckon that beefing up the rears and adding a balancing control would have been excellent. I actually sold the car with a brand new OBP pedal box etc. bought with that in mind but suspect the pirate who bought it may have then sold it on separately.

Not knowing the new owner's name I hadn't found any results . . do you know how well it performed in the sprint series?
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I remember seeing various postings in the past about this car on several mr2 forums.

This car is one crying out for a stroked 2zzge (ie 1980cc) conversion with itbs and an uprated c64 exige gearbox and drive shafts (that can be machined to allow aw11 outer hubs to be fitted).

Although this would be an expensive conversion the amount of development that went into the chassis would more than fustify the expense.
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Just checked last seasons results. Looks like he only did rounds 4 and 5, it was driven by Rick Parker. I don't think he was getting the most of the car for whatever reason though so his results don't really carry any significance.

Results are here:
http://www.toyotasprint.com/tss/index.p ... &Itemid=88
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Again, thanks for the replies.

I agree about it deserving a better engine.It was quick enough with c 140 BHP and the most I ever experienced was only around 170BHP as I never got to drive it with the supercharged engine intended before I was forced to sell.

With the accuracy of the steering, the front end grip, secure rear (if treated sensibly) and light weight that was enough to see off MGF and ZR race cars, a slick shod CRX and various Alfa challenge cars on a couple of track days.

Best of all though was how it felt. My favourite car and I then 'graduated' to full on race spec. BMW M3s; wish I hadn't bothered.
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Yeah I would love an mr2 as well sorted as this one as a tarmac rally car, with a decent N/A engine as I suggested it would be a match for many of the top mk2 escorts and even some of the Darrians out at the moment.
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i was just googling f800eam & this came up :) well the car is coming along nicely t25 turbo is on & 22v rear brakes on with vented discs i will be testing it all soon at bruntingthorpe proving ground i'm looking for 220-250bhp @ 1.5bar boost with quick spool.

there was no obp pedal box with the car :( & the car needed lots of work
as i found out in the tss the brakes were sticking on & the supercharger was giving just 4psi so its been off the road since but will be back in the tss for 2011 :D
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I'm glad that you saw the post and have replied as I was very curious about where it had gone to/what it was being used for.

The tight git who bought the car from me moaned like mad about the pedal box which I'd mentioned but couldn't find at the time and tried to insist it was part of the deal. Nice of him then to not pass it on!

It's a surprise how much work needed doing as it was pretty good when I first sold it (to a guy in Barbados) and was then sat in an indoor storage facility for a couple of years.

Then when I got it back it went to Kevin Poole at KPM who ripped me off well and truly, charging c. £4000 for supposedly re-building and refreshing it including the brakes. It came back with several issues not sorted, dodgy wiring and a knackered 'new' engine. It wasn't until I threatened legal action that I got the car back.

It then went off to Rogue who charged a shed load too to fit the engine from UGP (which had been recently re-built so should have been fine) and repair some of the damage/undone stuff from Poole. I'd have hoped after all that it would have been pretty much sorted!

The car pretty much bankrupted me, is a major factor in my marriage dying and has left me unable to contemplate owning a track car ever again but - despite having loads of other cars from Clio Cups to race prepped M3s - is still my utter favourite; I miss it loads and regret getting diverted by other cars hence my interest. When set up right it handled brilliantly and was so quick even with way less power than you hope for. My best ever track session was one at Cadwell where it just flew and felt so right.

I hope you do get it sorted and have success with it - it should be a monster with that power.

Cheers
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There is a post in the MK1 section looks as though this casr has resurfaced and is being readied for use again
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Update on this car. We bought it and brought it home today. :mrgreen:

Latest on it is that the turbo the Rik fitted wasn't really suitable, it wasn't sized correctly and couldn't handle the flow or the boost. Eventually the turbo cried enoguh and he sourced a turbo from an S15 Silvia for it although all the plumbing and pipework still needs to be sorted then it'll probably need remapping

Plan for the time being is to get it up and running tidying up a few bits as I go (the wiring in the engine bay looks like a rats nest) then I'll combine all the best bits of this car and our current sprint car onto one shell or the other (haven't decided which yet) then all the leftover bits will be sold off, ideally as a complete car as neither of them deserve to be broken for parts.
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kaiowas wrote:Update on this car. We bought it and brought it home today. :mrgreen:

Latest on it is that the turbo the Rik fitted wasn't really suitable, it wasn't sized correctly and couldn't handle the flow or the boost. Eventually the turbo cried enoguh and he sourced a turbo from an S15 Silvia for it although all the plumbing and pipework still needs to be sorted then it'll probably need remapping

Plan for the time being is to get it up and running tidying up a few bits as I go (the wiring in the engine bay looks like a rats nest) then I'll combine all the best bits of this car and our current sprint car onto one shell or the other (haven't decided which yet) then all the leftover bits will be sold off, ideally as a complete car as neither of them deserve to be broken for parts.

Funny, but I was thinking about this car and what was happening with it only yesterday.

Breaks my heart to think you might break this. I know the wiring has been an issue for a long while, what with the various engine transplants and the utter butchery committed by some of the previous mechanics like Kevin Poole, but if properly set up you'll find this handles so well and is such a joy to drive. The steering is the absolute very best I've ever felt in any of the 2 dozen road and race cars I've had.

If you could get a decent engine and then wire up up from scratch - or maybe get a race team to do one of the lightweight military spec. looms etc. - it should be very competitive.

Matt Jenkins did well enough in it with a very peaky engine and only 160BHP ish. The seam welding, cage, lightweight body parts etc. took so much time, work and money. At it's best it was ace!

Please post any updates so we (well, I) can keep up to speed.
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Ideally with the wiring I'd like to get the car running then build a new loom from scratch which I can swap in with the option to fall back to the known good (but scruffy) loom if I have any trouble with it.

I know where you're coming from regards breaking it which is why I'd rather sell a complete car once we've got ourselves sorted. We're torn between this shell which has had plenty of work done to it and our own which we've got a sentimental attachement to (as well as having worked on a lot ourselves).
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I can imagine the sentimental aspect given the work you did to your own.

I have the same for FEAM despite all the aggro (and expense!) it caused despite my efforts being mainly down to the donkey work like stripping, lightening etc.

Shell wise Simon Gibson put loads of effort into the fibreglass parts, the pop up lights (pop up by hand at any rate!), sunroof etc. PrepFab did the seam welding, cage and arches. And Tollbar Racing did a lot of fine tuning to the suspension. Well over £30,000 went into the car.

It was always the engine and wiring (and STACK dash) that caused problems - I should have (wish I had) bitten the bullet years ago and gone for a full out conversion of engine, gear box and wiring loom.

Anyway, hope you get it fixed up and on track... cheers!
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The Mrs is trawling through the paperwork at the moment. I'm sure I'll have a scary number to post up at the end if you want to know it!

Definitely appreciate the work that went into the panels and I'll be keeping those whatever happens to the rest of it. Along with the cage and the LEDAs they were big factors in me deciding to buy it.

Tempted to ditch the STACK though. I'm guessing it's probably still worth good money and it doesn't really add anything to the car.
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Please don't! It will hurt too much. Though to be honest I can pretty much remember each and every bill.

The STACK was a bit of a frippery I admit, just liked the look of the thing. Had I kept it I wanted to add data logging etc. but got too bogged down with other cars/projects regrettably and ran out of money.
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Ok, no numbers on this but it might bring back a few memories.

I've been piecing together a little history with the paperwork we have, very interesting stuff although the numbers are scary!


www.finkydink.co.uk/FEAM%20history.pdf
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If you haven't seen it you might find this interesting

http://web.mac.com/dghawkes/F800_EAM/Welcome.html

A mess-about prototype website for my photography business, just learning how to build one/use HTML and using this as the subject matter so I had something to remember and a place to combine al the bits and pieces I had; lots of details about how the car came to be...
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Thats cool, thanks. Although he has had a few years 'out', I can now start documenting his progress again. He has a great pedigree!

Still unsure about the colour, but it seems a crime to change it.
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