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Jim-SR wrote:Budget is always the reason.It does beg the question of where else corners get cut though.
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Everywhere you can.
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Jim-SR wrote:£200 saved on cutting springs, a component which, if it failed on say the entry to Paddock Hill Bend at Brands Hatch, could result in death for the driver, other drivers, spectators, etc.
Hell, an MR2 cleared the catch fence in a
"racing incident" there the other week, without throwing component failures into the mix.
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Racing is a dangerous hobby.
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And the fence clearing incident was a freak occurance.
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Jim-SR wrote:For me, the old"people have done it for years, and competed in 10,000,000,000 races without a problem, so why not?" argument doesn't float.
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Why not?
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Jim-SR wrote:Carroll Smith used to quote"Murphy's Law" over and over again in his books, and it always springs to mind when I'm even contemplating bodging something
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"Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.
And will do so at the worst possible moment".
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"do it right or do it twice".
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In all honesty I'd trust the cut down springs more than some of the 25 year old toyota original bits left in my mk1.
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Jim-SR wrote:For all the times that bodged springs have worked, it only takes that one occasion when one goes wrong, and somebody(potentially multiple people) could die.
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As per previous comments, racing is dangerous.
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Jim-SR wrote:It's racing, I never understand how people can justify doing something to a track/race car that they probably wouldn't deem safe on a road car.
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Because unlike a road car a race car has a much narrower set of operating parameters.
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Jim-SR wrote:As if crashing a race car is acceptable because it's got a roll cage and you're wearing a lid.
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Nobody, least of all the guy in the race car wants a crash.
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Jim-SR wrote:My personal opinions aren't going to suddenly change the mindset of those that are intent on saving themselves money.So I'm not going to argue about it, just wanted to make my point.
In the MR2 racing series' where regulations prohibit simply running proper race coilover units, suspension is about the only area with any performance freedom at all.
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Oddly perhaps, in light of my comments above, this is one of the reasons I'm moving to a new race series next year.
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Jim-SR wrote:Dampers have to be standard fitment inserts, so that means Koni's all day long unless you've got proper money to get custom stuff made.![]()
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kyb's these days in mk1's
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Jim-SR wrote:Cutting stock springs will never be anywhere near ideal, so if you're buying lowering springs in the first place and then cutting them it would barely even cost more to get custom stuff to begin with if you can get them for£200 a set!!
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If you can get them in time from the batch that gets made.
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