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Marf wrote:I'm not trying to discuss layouts etc, just trying to challenge your supposition that the MR2 is more predictable on the limit than an S15.
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To be fair, that's your supposition not mine, as at no point did I ever compare the MR2 to the S15.
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A good analogy might be: the S15 will regularly leave a small skid in your CK's, every once in a while the MR2 will leave a gigantic Yokohama-sized skid in them!!