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$1200 plus shipping, vat and import fees I feel there kit is a bit steep. Anyone know of anything of a similar size and shape that would work? Obviously have to get tabs welded on etc but this core is right here in the UK. £88. ATS really must have enormous glass doors charging $1200 for one of these plus a couple of bits of pipe and a couple of electric fans. ð$1200 is still scandalous. Gravity racing sell an identical core for £119. wouldnt catch me spending over £1k+ on such a small intercooler with off the shelf pipework and couplers.(based on greddy sizes I believe) But it is insanely priced. Been doing some research and it seems top mount on the passenger side works quite well. I'm not sure what other options I have than a boot mount to be honest. The ATS one will stick out way past my inlet manifold and i'm not sure how a differently shaped one would hold up at 480bhp. 
The dimensions are near double that of a side mount. I guess a toms or bomex scoop (as much as I despise them) would get air into this no problem. Have a fan underneath it on constantly too for when sitting in traffic. My worry is the strip, Sitting in a queue for 15 minutes before your run it would heatsoak like mad.(on other cars), youd hope a smaller core was fairly cheap. lay some ice on it, now theres an idea! 
Surely the side further away from the engine would be cooler no? Also it's not really an option for me due to my stupid inlet manifold, I'd have to run crazy pipework. Even a boot mount I'd have to run fairly rubbish pipework 
I put it on par with a zx600-750. Don't think it would touch a 900cc. Likely reason ATS went there. 
..I've been researching primarily on mr2oc so totally mixed up with driver and passenger side! Yeah I also thought passenger side would be colder. From what I've seen these top mount setups run a fan constantly. I guess I can only hive it a try. I'll be doing pretty much the same as that pic. Some of the audis there the last time were insane. There was a mk1 TT running low 11's. I actually have a mk1 TT and it feels leaps and bounds ahead of the mr2 despite both cars being around at the same time. My mr2 has launch control and antilag/flatshifting. It's slightly uphill and always into the wind as it's faces the sea haha! I'm really not all that serious about the strip if i'm honest, I'm not a big fan of launching the car hard either. I do enjoy the strip but i'm by no means competitive. I ride a zx12r that'll do a standing 1/4 in about 9 secs. Once you've done that chasing times seriously seems pointless. It's just for fun for me. FWIW I left a split new RS3 like it was standing still, On the (private) road mind you.. I'm not convinced, it might be big, but the typical mr2 problem remains... (rain tray removed, or one of those aftermarket lids, phoenix power etc) then airflow out is an issue(as far as I can see...) compounding points a&b (air or water) is reliant on the hear exchanger being able to reject heat, which means it's got to be in the airflow.. like a CC rad at the front of the car. if your CC system wasn't working for some reason then troubleshooting that rather than ripping it out makes more sense surely?'00 Honda CBR600 Follow me on Instagram @c35rob The issue was to bleed it it takes two people. One at the front to open and close the valve, One at the back with the hose jammed into the filler neck. The guy who helped me never knew how the valve on my pre rad works. If you close it and oush it past the point where it's closed it starts to open again. So for 7000 miles it had been weeping. I regularly checked it at least once a week but the weep was so tiny that it took 7000-8000 miles before it has weeped enough to cause an airlock. All that aside the pre rad is now burst somewhere and is leaking so is now useless. I fear the cold over winter is what's burst it. I'd much rather have a setup that I didn't have a worry about. That info is good enough for me but due to my stupid side feed inlet that core is just too big. I physically couldn't get the pipework back on itself to meet the outlet of the core. From the research I've done it seems that a larger surface area is better than a thicker core. Also, Toyota themselves use this same setup on the same side on the supercharged MK1 and according to some members posts about this setup (well one user in particular) the rsin tray off made zero difference to the rain tray being on. The lack of any real world data on a smaller core than the ATS one is what puts me off, when I say smaller core the one i'm looking at is still more than twice the size of a greddy/spearco sidemount and actually just marginally smaller than the kit ATS sells but it is a different shape, Same shape as the one in the pic. As for airflow you have the whole bottom of the car for upward airflow which is the natural flow of air for the mr2. I'm certainly not trying to justify why these are better or worse but from what I've read the side vent has very little to do with these setups. They also run fans constantly. I may well just go boot mount. Good news that my block's not cracked though haha...With my CC system not working at all the CC core alone was enough to handle my low boost setting (21psi 330whp) it was only on high boost it started acting up and misfiring etc then eventually bursting the head gasket. Low boost was no issue at all whatsoever. I run the car in low boost pretty much permanently. Had I not switched to high boost I'd have never known.Ryan S wrote:
If you check the ATS website you'll see they did 21 pulls back to back with no heatsoak.
. . it's been a long time since I looked at your original build so I've had to refresh myself, looking back your initial install is sub optimal, the radiator is too small, and being twin-pass it isn't good for flow, there's multiple hard 90 degree couplers (metal ones on the core and the blue plastic one near the radiator that I can see) which are awful for the flow of a fluid, the bend radius of the rubber hose leading into and out of the radiator is too tight which will cause it to close up internally too, and the pump is passable at best. water to air intercooling is a proven, tried and tested solution, you just need to make yours reliable and efficient.'00 Honda CBR600 Follow me on Instagram @c35rob Think you're overthinking the bends though, flow is flow, When my system is working it flows well. Annoyingly a header tank isn't possible. The CC core is already at the highest point apart from the wee daft filler neck thing.Ryan S wrote:In fairness it's the easiest option as well.
'00 Honda CBR600 Follow me on Instagram @c35rob
PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 12:43 pm
Something like that would be great but there's no place that I can mount it higher than the CC core
. just weld on a alloy filter neck I have the AVT filler neck but was worried about cutting into the CC core incase i wrecked it. Filling it isn't an issue to be honest. I just don't trust it all that much now I really just want to run an intercooler to be totally honest. Just trying to see what other options there are before I end up hacking the boot up. That was pretty cool looking. How it functions I've no idea!
