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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:00 pm    Post subject: Lifeline Plumbed-In Fire System Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Kong's recent total loss due to what was most likely a simple electrical fault, has brought home to many the reality fire: not only it's ablitly to threaten life, but it's power to almost instant destroy what is to many owners, their valued, cherished pride and joy.

As a result, i have been in discussion with Lifeline, Britiain's premier motorpsort fire supression specialist, and in light of the reason behind me calling them, they have made us a cracking offer.

Please note: I have known Kong for many, many years and i have no intention of profiting on his misfortune. This is a no-profit group buy.

This group buy a for a Lifeline 2.25ltr Zero 2000 Mechanical Slimline Fire Marshal Kit.

The bottle is lightweight aluminium. It will mount neatly, across the footwell, immediately in front of the passenger seat. A pull cable fitted within driver's reach will instantly totally discharge the Zero 2000 suppressant via two atomising nozzles into the engine bay, completely smothering the fire.

This kit is MSA approved, and the gas is FIA compliant. This is a top quality kit, built in Britain, by one of the world's leading specialists.

The kit includes:

•6ft Pull Cable (x 1)
•12ft Pull Cable (x 1)
•Zero 2000 Nozzle (x 2)
•6mm Equal T Connector (x 1)
•6mm Tube (x 4m)
•6mm Bulkhead Fitting (x 1)
•Pipe Clip (x 5)

Only one pull cable will be required for normal road-going vehicles.

Installation is straightforward:

•mount bottle to floor
•route pull cable behind carpet and over tunnel to driver's side
•route supplied discharge tube behind carpet through rear bulkhead
•use supplied puh fit fitting to split discharge tube into 2 tubes
•fit supplied dischage nozzles to tubes

We will be offering a full fitting service at £100 inc. VAT.

Subject to confirmation, we will also be able to have your JDM passenger carpet mat professionally shortened and edge rebound to fit extinguisher.

So price.

Retail price of this kit is £319.00 inc. VAT and delivery.

Group buy price is £233.00 collected from my workshop, £243.00 delivered within the UK.

We need 5 or more to achieve the group buy price. So far we have:

1) RedMR2 (Craig)
2) Slipping_clutch (Martin)
3) Juliankv (Julian)
4) matt-mr2 (Matt)

This group but will close Friday 7th February. As a non-profit GB, payment will be by BACS, or any other method with surcharges at cost.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

I'm in for one [Dancing]

I saw Kongs car today as it really opens your eyes to damage that can be caused by an electrical short .

A great priced kit for your pride and joy [thumleft]
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Looks a nice piece of kit, defo in for one. [thumleft]

Still gutted for Kong [Sad]
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

ashley wrote:
Sign me up [thumleft]


Added.

1) RedMR2 (Craig)
2) Slipping_clutch (Martin)
3) Juliankv (Julian)
4) matt-mr2 (Matt)
5) ashley (Ashley)

Minimum number required has been met, so group buy is on. [thumleft]
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
ashley wrote:
Sign me up [thumleft]


Added.

1) RedMR2 (Craig)
2) Slipping_clutch (Martin)
3) Juliankv (Julian)
4) matt-mr2 (Matt)
5) ashley (Ashley)

Minimum number required has been met, so group buy is on. [thumleft]


Yay! Right let's feel the fibre of your fabric peeps!

Game on! I'm ready to pay [Wink] [Dancing]
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

I'm in! A small price to pay considering the amount of money invested in my car!
Well done for sorting this out Peter, it's a cracking deal.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Scott Barton wrote:
I'm in! A small price to pay considering the amount of money invested in my car!
Well done for sorting this out Peter, it's a cracking deal.

Excellent point Scott - my charge cooler system will end up costing more than the fire extinguisher and that's just one Item I can list and I am betting most people have got a lot more invested in their car than me.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Scott Barton wrote:
I'm in!


Added. [thumleft]

1) RedMR2 (Craig)
2) Slipping_clutch (Martin)
3) Juliankv (Julian)
4) matt-mr2 (Matt)
5) ashley (Ashley)
6) Scott Barton

Scott Barton wrote:
A small price to pay considering the amount of money invested in my car!


I agree 100%. About 3 tanks of BP's finest. [Shocked]

Scott Barton wrote:
Well done for sorting this out Peter, it's a cracking deal.


Thanks Scott. [thumleft]


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
Scott Barton wrote:
I'm in! A small price to pay considering the amount of money invested in my car!


I agree 100%. About 3 tanks of BP's finest. [Shocked]


Yep, very small price to pay to save your car in the event of an engine fire!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

RedMR² wrote:
Yep, very small price to pay to save your car in the event of an engine fire!


Not to mention your life. You cant put a price on your ability to actually walk away from a potential devastating event.

Id rather walk out than have to be cut out or worse
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Shall I stick up on the Facebook page? Could generate a lot more interest if it is needed?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Scott Barton wrote:
Shall I stick up on the Facebook page? Could generate a lot more interest if it is needed?


Excellent idea. [thumleft]
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Really want in on this
Gonna run it past Kels,.. See what money we have left
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

pistol pete wrote:
Really want in on this
Gonna run it past Kels,.. See what money we have left


Can you get your screen done on insurance? Doesn't normally count as a claim. That'll save some £s.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

I wish swapped ins from the 1.5 to the mk3 and cos I valued it at a grand they would only insure 3rd party grrrr (was fully comp on 1.5)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

On the basis that this is a not-for-profit exercise, and Peter feel free to shoot me down / remove this post if it's out of line, but is there a reason you've chosen the particular kit you have? Surely you'd be better with the basic club fire marshal kit which is the same specification but has a steel bottle instead of an alloy one at around half the price.

Lifeline Club Fire Marshall £89.96+vat:
http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/race/plumbed-in-systems/lifeline-club-fire-marshal-2-25-ltr

This is the model that we fit as standard to all of our race cars.

The same version but with JJC branding is £2.50+vat cheaper:
http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/race/best-sellers/jjc-2-25ltr-msa-compliant-plumbed-in-mechanical-fire-extinguisher-system

There's a note in the description that confirms it's the same Lifeline kit. If you want a hand held unit as well then they do a twin pack for £118.10+vat:

http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/race/best-sellers/jjc-fire-extinguisher-kit-2-25ltr-plumbed-in-1-75ltr-hand-held

Bare in mind that there will be an overhead in using a fire extinguisher in a road car. You will need to arm and disarm the extinguisher with the safety pin that's located in the handle. If you don't arm the extinguisher - it's not going to go off when you pull the lever so you'll need to get into the habit of putting the pin in and out EVERY TIME YOU USE THE VEHICLE. Otherwise, leave the system system armed but in a location that you can reach easily. In the event of a fire you'll need to manually pull the pin and squeeze the lever to trigger the extinguisher.

I would strongly advise against leaving the extinguisher permanently armed. Anyone pulling the remote cable or knocking the lever will activate the extinguisher. I've made the assumption that you won't be installing the external pull cable. In race cars, one nozzle is intended for the engine bay, the other should be directed in the cabin towards the driver - this is the most important thing to keep free of fire!

Motorsport fire extinguishers should be serviced every two years. Lifeline charge around £40+postage for this.

Finally, although you may have saved your car from being burnt out, there's a significant overhead in cleaning off the extinguishant itself. It's not a gas, it's aqueous film-forming foam (AFFF) and I can vouch from personal experience that it's nasty stuff, corrosive and difficult to clean. You pretty much want to get a jetwash on it as soon as possible!

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

OK, had a quick chat with Patrick, and confirmed that whilst he makes good points, he is basing his thoughts on his extensive race car experience. And in some situations, road and race applications have different priorities.

So to answer:

Rogue wrote:
Surely you'd be better with the basic club fire marshal kit which is the same specification but has a steel bottle instead of an alloy one at around half the price.


The cheaper model is 510mm end to end. A fully trimmed footwell is 510mm fibres to fibres. So whilst doing the same job, the cheaper. larger bottle will look "jammed" in. The alloy bottle will have incehs spare at each end and be more aesthtically pleasing in a smart car.

Rogue wrote:
Stuff about arming pin and nozzle in cockpit


Points accepted and these are examples of differences between road and race.

In a road fire like Kong's, if he had been able to pull the pin and pull the T handle, right now i'd be cleaning a very sticky engine, not removing the few parts of the whole car that are salvagable.

In race use, a driver could be upside down and semi-conscious, and there's obviously a good reason for him having to simply pull the T handle to extinguish a fire that's probably occured as a result of a high speed accident.

A nozzle in the cockpit of a road car is 99% of the time going to be unnecessary, and better used helping to extinguish the fire in the engine bay.

Kong was able to cross 3 lanes of the motorway, pull up, apply handbrake, and switch off before getting out.

I agree, having seen the aftermath of a fire extinguished by a motorsports extinguisher, the residue is unpleasant to work with.

However i suspect Kong would much rather me be cleaning his engine bay than stripping his car!

Useful input Patrick. [thumleft]

BTW, now's the time to upgrade those heavy steel bottles in your race cars. Especially as you're a firm believer in making a car faster by removing weight! [Very Happy]
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
BTW, now's the time to upgrade those heavy steel bottles in your race cars. Especially as you're a firm believer in making a car faster by removing weight! [Very Happy]


There's no need to fit a lightweight extinguisher in an MR2 Championship car - you can hit the minimum weight limit with ease so no point splashing the cash unnecessarily! For applications where weight is a consideration (such as Britcar) we do indeed use lighter weight extinguishers but with up to 120 litres of fuel on board we also increase the capacity. In the latest car we also switched to Novec 1230 which is a gas designed to replace Halon.
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Paid. [thumleft]
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