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Beams engine in UK 93 rev2 non turbo.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:00 pm    Post subject: Beams engine in UK 93 rev2 non turbo. Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Beams engine for sale here:


http://www.nipponautospares-onlinestore.com/toyota-celica-st202-3sge-vvt-i-beams-engine-kit-1993-1999-394-p.asp

Can this be fitted to my car?

Is it worth it?

Easy swap or nightmare?

Scope for tuning?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

I've never really understood the Beams as a viable option given their cost and the fact a 3s-gte exists.... just seems pointless when there is a cheaper more powerful alternative.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

1900 plus fitting... that'd get you a half decent 3Sgte, and the rest of the car attached to it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Paul, can you pm me with costs for a rev3 turbo conversion please mate?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Sorry mate i stopped doing 3s-gte conversions some time ago, the donor engines are just too old now (newest ones are 16 years old) and i cannot warranty anything unless it gets a full rebuild and all new ancilliaries.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Hey baldy, why don't you go 2gr or 1mz? They should put some hair on your chest.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

"2gr and 1mz"???
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3.0 (1MZ) and 3.5 (2GR) V6s.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Is the 2gr 3.5 not a lot more hassle to fit and get sorted properly?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

BALDYMONSTER wrote:
Is the 2gr 3.5 not a lot more hassle to fit and get sorted properly?


Not if you get woodsport to do it. Does it cost quite a bit more? Yes, sourcing the engine in this country is not cheap.

Does the 2gr give stupid amounts of torque that is so lazily delivered by the engine that unless abused and neglected is shouldn't (touch wood) fail without some weird reason?

Yes. IMO the 2gr gives more than enough power to the sw platform.

Does the 1mz give good torque at more reasonable money? I'd say yes, but I haven't driven a 1mz.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

Thanks mate,

Back to the beams for a bit, can this just be dropped in plug and play?

Or what if anything needs changed?

I know I keep going on about different engines but there are so many different options, reasons, benefits and such.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Reply with quote including images

it's as much of a conversion as any other engine, you need the ecu, the loom needs to be adapted, intake, exhaust and a minor change to the dials.
for 23hp over the stock rev3, it's a small gain for a large amount of effort. for the same money the 1mz can be done which has 2hp more than the beams but a whopping 60lbs of torque more.

If you want to stay 2.0L and NA then the beams is an option. it revs faster than the normal 3sge and with throttle bodies can make a little more power. it's one of those engines that needs to live at the high end to make it work. thing is that small amount extra is hard to notice when driving.

looked into it in a big way years ago but didn't go for it in the end. huge amount of money for 23hp. which in a turbo can be had for turning the boost up from stock to 1bar.

how about a gen4 turbo? 260hp stock, cheaper than the beams - just. many of the normal 3sgte upgrade parts fit for future mods. there are a loads of parts you need for the conversion but that's the same with most of them.
it's a higher compression turbo engine so is responsive when off boost, has a small turbo for quick spool up, fuel cut is 22psi but most people run lower pressure than that. they can make 300hp with just a couple of mods and some extra boost over stock.

the v6 engines are a nice route though, effortless torque and thus speed with the 2gr. think 350z power in a mr2.

could prob get a turbo diesel engine in there, loads of torque, coal rolling if wanted, cheap on fuel and the engine would be cheap.

The cost of the engine is only 1 part of any conversion
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