MK1 with German Autostyle bodykit / GOT PICTURES OF IT NOW

[Mk1 Turbo Powered Steve]

Just bought a MK1 with one of these imported German kits, its the same as whats on Jo's orange Tango MK1, anyone know much about them.

The kit along with the wheels were imported from Germany 14 years ago by the previous owner. Found a bill for £2000 for a recent respray in 2003.

http://photobucket.com/albums/b64/Sheav ... Autostyle/

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MALLORY

Hi Michael,
i've had another look at the photos and i think the wheels really look good on it.
Personally i don't think you should change them

[Lauren]

Thanks for your input Lauren. Of course I am looking at everything from the twobrutal angle, which is to make everything as big as possible just because, and there can be no better reason than that

I am seriously worried about the lack of traction though, I can't think of any 300 lbf ft cars that run 195s on the driven wheels. I reckon I'd be pretty worried about breaking traction midway through a 3rd gear bend and ending up in the armco

Has to be said though, I found the GT4 on a 40 series tyre to be pretty good on track, and that's a much heavier car with lots of inherent understeer.

Ah well, once I've finished the mk1.5 my next project will be an MR4 I reckon

Am sure decent tyres will suffice traction wise on a 195 width. Besides surely the point of having a car with a stupid amount of power is that you can spin the wheels/goon at will?

If you break traction mid-way through a bend, then you have accelerated to soon, or you do it intentionally to invoke power oversteer. Don't see any problem with that. MR2s don't suffer form traction issues generally due to the MR layout.

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Steve,

Its too late mate I've already sold them to Wayne..!

[MegatronUK]

...the twobrutal [angle], which is to make everything as big as possible just because, and there can be no better reason than that

I vote we have that as the unofficial twobrutal tagline

[djdna2000]

I had a quick word with Jeff Fazio on the US list (JekyllandHyde) who is a decent driver, he's just set some record for a big hillclimb event in his MR2 (there's agood vid on the site). He's using 265/45/16 rear and 225/45/15 at the front. So a mixture of what we've all been saying!

[tonigmr2]

Interesting. I've got to wondering if you use a coilover lighter than stock, and wheels lighter than stock if the wheel size would matter so much.
T

[Lauren]

Interesting. I've got to wondering if you use a coilover lighter than stock, and wheels lighter than stock if the wheel size would matter so much.
T

You still have the problem of poor camber control though.

[tonigmr2]

Which camber bolts could organise to some degree?
T

[anna]

Isn't the problem of camber control to do with the range of camber movement from the top to bottom of the suspension travel?

Sorry Toni - How does this bolt work to overcome it?

[tonigmr2]

Sorry my poor english - 'camber adjusting bolts'.

Definition: A bolt fitted with an eccentric that is turned to change a wheel's camber setting. Camber bolts are typically used on control arms and lower strut mounts.

http://www.ingallseng.com/parts/81250.htm



T

[Lauren]

Sorry my poor english - 'camber adjusting bolts'.

Definition: A bolt fitted with an eccentric that is turned to change a wheel's camber setting. Camber bolts are typically used on control arms and lower strut mounts.

http://www.ingallseng.com/parts/81250.htm

T

Nope camber bolts will not solve it as Anna rightly points out its the suspension movement where you get the bad camber control. It is an inherent design weakness in MacPherson struts setup.

[tonigmr2]

When the Ledas were fitted they took a lot of trouble with my camber and the HKS pillowball adjustable top mounts, surely some of this trouble is ironed out here.

T

[Icsunonove]

It's to do with the single lower wishbone arm and macpherson strut. If there was a upper wishbone on the hub you could control things properly.

[anna]

Ok - I see....

They are still a 'static' fix though? so won't help the range of camber you get - just the 'equilibrium' camber?

Now if you had 'active camber adjustment bolts' then you might have a solution

[Lauren]

When the Ledas were fitted they took a lot of trouble with my camber and the HKS pillowball adjustable top mounts, surely some of this trouble is ironed out here.

T

Unfortunately not, because you still have the problem of the MacPherson strut being fixed at its top most point. when the lower suspension arm rises under compression, the only result can be a change in camber which will always go toward less camber than a static setting.

Yes you can set more negative camber static, but there is a limit to which you can go with this. Have a look at a pic of a MacPherson strut setup and you will see what i mean.

[tonigmr2]

It's alright I've got it

Just trying to justify bigger wheels, LOL
T

[djdna2000]

Pity Toyota didn't carry on with the superstrut setup as found on the 205 (and carina GTi), this is dead clever, if prone to wear over time. Though full double wishbones would be better of course.

[jrleech]

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