[Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

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lelo1982
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[Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

Post by lelo1982 »

hi all
i write from italy and I hope that someone of can help me to you.
I have mr2 Turbo America and i have a AP Power fc.
The problem is that after I have installed it and swap wires to match a rev2 JDM wiring harness, the car don't start.
I have also disarmed teh boost control byt it doesn't want to start
please help me
Rory
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

Post by Rory »

Have you tried starting without the hand commander attached?
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lelo1982
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

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yes, but equally it doesn't start
Rory
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

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What fault finding have you done? Is there a spark? Is there fuel?
lelo1982
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

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there are both fuel and spark
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

Post by tubby_tony »

Is the Power FC the correct version for your car? Have you just installed it or was it already running and you have changed something else in the whole combustion system?
lelo1982
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

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excuse me for my bad English

i believe that it is the corredt version, i could show to you some photos, this way you can tell me if it is the correct version. no, I have not changed anything.

would you know me to help?
mark239
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

Post by mark239 »

does it try to spark? Have you fouled the plugs
lelo1982
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I have not understood , please please explained better
I don't speak English a lot of good
rameairo
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

Post by rameairo »

Is your PFC serial sw21 or is it sw20?? That is the difference about gen2 and gen3. If it's sw21 that should work ok now after your wire swap if it's done right. If it's sw20 you should look under search button... Then you should do lots of another things as well(change igniter, map,few sensor and injectors), and do some wiring swap again.
lelo1982
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

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i believe it is sw20 and i have done right wire swap.

thing precisely I have to still do? [/i]
rameairo
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

Post by rameairo »

this should be the right one.. AP Engineering sw20 should work. Do you have righ ECU wire pin layout? And is this that PFC which needs those sensors?
lelo1982
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yes i have.
I think of him. I have installed a air temperature sensor(89424-42010) to the place of cold start injector
lelo1982
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upppp
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uppp
rameairo
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

Post by rameairo »

Can someone tell me why US tubby's need those sensor's? I didn't install anything on my JDM MR2. Just plug and start.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

Post by jimGTS »

you dont and shouldnt need any sensor to swap....
IF however you want to ditch the AFM and run on a map based setup, then you will need to wire in the AIT and MAT sensor (Cold start sensor for manifold temp, and ait for intake/induction temp) into the ecu, (thats all), ditch the AFM, fit a rev3 map sensor, then you should be good to use the other (rev3) MAP sensor option from the hand commander.....

this is why the ap is generally werth more, because you can convert and still use the same ecu and ditch the afm....

if you try on a rev3 type apexi fc, only difference to the above is youll need to get a rev3 ignitor and rewire the ecu (and preferably fit larger injectors)...

i would check your wiring....
(not that i wired my own, so i wouldnt be able to help with the specifics)
lelo1982
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

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i swap wires following this diagram
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

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upp :(
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] help AP Power fc

Post by JMR_AW11 »

lelo1982 wrote:upp :(

Have you tried a standard JDM ECU in place of the APFC?

If you do this you can read the Toyota fault codes that could tell you if the wiring is wrong.
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